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Anne_S04 · 08-03-2008, 15:56

Hello Guys...
my name is Anne and im from germany. Im a big fooball fan and thats why i now have to do a coursework about it in school....in english.
My teacher and i decided that my coursework has to have the title " Football as a symbol of british identity". That means i have to describe how football in England or Britain helps for example minorities, especially ethinic minorities, to integrate into society and how football makes england to what it is. (Because i know it is a big part of your culture just like it is here in germany)
And now i have some questions and i wanted to as if you could help me? Because it might be cool to talk to some english football fans and how they see football in their country.

thanks
Anne

superally · 08-03-2008, 16:02

Best way to find out,is to take part in the forum.Then judge us for yourselves.
Am moving thread to new signings forum.
Welcome BTW!

boro_boy · 08-03-2008, 16:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anne_S04

Hello Guys...
my name is Anne and im from germany. Im a big fooball fan and thats why i now have to do a coursework about it in school....in english.
My teacher and i decided that my coursework has to have the title " Football as a symbol of british identity". That means i have to describe how football in England or Britain helps for example minorities, especially ethinic minorities, to integrate into society and how football makes england to what it is. (Because i know it is a big part of your culture just like it is here in germany)
And now i have some questions and i wanted to as if you could help me? Because it might be cool to talk to some english football fans and how they see football in their country.

thanks
Anne

Ask us some questions or do what SA has suggested.

Oh welcome to the forum, hope you enjoy your stay

superally · 08-03-2008, 16:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by boro_boy

A do what SA has suggested.

SA always makes sense.

yes:

jonesy · 08-03-2008, 23:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by superally

SA always makes sense.

yes:

Welcome. Love to know what questions you have.

Shanks1965 · 09-03-2008, 00:04

Hello Anne & welcome1:

Anne_S04 · 09-03-2008, 08:37

Thanks for this warm welcome
okay then...here are my questions:

1. In what way do you think can football unite people in Britain?
2. Does it have a big influence on your life is it a part of your identity?
3. Do you think immigrants can get integrated better through football?

And my last questions has something to do with the english national team.

Why do you always sing your national anthem during a football match of the national team? (i mean not before the match but when it has aleady started)

Could the national anthem be seen as some kind of symbol of integration, because when i watch a match of the english national team i see everyone sing it. English people as well as asians and people of other ethnicities.

i hope you can understand my question

thank you!!!

jonesy · 09-03-2008, 08:57

I probably shouldn't answer these questions because I'm Welsh not English, but to be honest although football can unite communities in terms of unifying Britain, i've always found it to be more divisive. I have only got Rugby union to compare, but the fans there are never segregated - there's no need. Banter and passion exist, but never anything more sinister. Can't see why football can't be the same.

As for being part of my identity? No not really, only in the sense that It's a favourite passtime. I suppose the only other influence is the fact that as a woman I sometimes feel isolated as a fan.

Don't know about the immigrant thing. No personal experience, better off talking to someone from a large city for that.

Shouldn't comment at all on the English national team, only to say the National Anthem is shite. It's weak and irrelevant to most people in the country. It's about time they got a new one, something more rousing and passionate. I'd complain that technically its the British national anthem but frankly, they can keep it!

boro_boy · 09-03-2008, 09:35

You should answer the questions as its about british football.

Anyway he's my answers:

1. In what way do you think can football unite people in Britain?

Football brings together people from all backgrounds and nationalities / religions. Its crazy as everyone are friends inside the ground and get on with one another, then they are friends outside the ground also. You have Muslims having a laugh with Christians and Non Believers. Away from relegion you have fans from Norway, USA and other places from around the world who make the odd trip to the Riverside. I think its great and its great for the local community also.

2. Does it have a big influence on your life is it a part of your identity?

Yes it does, when you are out talking to people, say on a night out in the town centre, football always gets discussed and you always ask who they support. I think that has a big affect on the way people look at you, well it does with me anyway, if I'm speaking to a person from Middlesbrough and they support Manchester United. I'm like, why? Then they tell me, and then I will judge them .

Also I have a big car sticker in the back window of my Clio 182 and it feels great driving around Portsmouth with than on show just to let people know who I support

3. Do you think immigrants can get integrated better through football?

I'm not sure about immigrants because they really can't afford to go to games so they don't really get integrated with the local community that way. To be honest I don't think they get integrated with the local community anyway, they just keep themselves to themselves, maybe it would be a good idea to get them involved with the club, give the club and the community something as we have given them food and shelter, well the local council has.

Why do you always sing your national anthem during a football match of the national team? (i mean not before the match but when it has already started)

Could the national anthem be seen as some kind of symbol of integration, because when i watch a match of the english national team i see everyone sing it. English people as well as asians and people of other ethnicities.

We sing it because we are proud to be English and we are proud of everything English. To see Asians and other ethnic minorities singing it is great. I honestly don't mind them coming over hear and sharing our values. What I don't like is the people coming over hear and trying to change the law, carrying out forces marriages etc, basically not living by our rules / laws.

Thanks

boro_boy · 09-03-2008, 09:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonesy

I probably shouldn't answer these questions because I'm Welsh not English, but to be honest although football can unite communities in terms of unifying Britain, i've always found it to be more divisive. I have only got Rugby union to compare, but the fans there are never segregated - there's no need. Banter and passion exist, but never anything more sinister. Can't see why football can't be the same.

As for being part of my identity? No not really, only in the sense that It's a favourite passtime. I suppose the only other influence is the fact that as a woman I sometimes feel isolated as a fan.

Don't know about the immigrant thing. No personal experience, better off talking to someone from a large city for that.

Shouldn't comment at all on the English national team, only to say the National Anthem is shite. It's weak and irrelevant to most people in the country. It's about time they got a new one, something more rousing and passionate. I'd complain that technically its the British national anthem but frankly, they can keep it!

should be land of hope and glory, so so so much better

Anne_S04 · 09-03-2008, 10:05

:thumbup1: wow!!! thank you for your answers! I cant say how happy i am about them.

I have to give this coursework to my teacher tomorrow and when i first thought about the topic i was like oh my god where can i get information about british football from. And the best way was to talk to british people I thank you so so so so much!!!
This forum is a very good example of how football unites people

and i have to ask if i can copy your answers just like you wrote them here

boro_boy · 09-03-2008, 10:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anne_S04

:thumbup1: wow!!! thank you for your answers! I cant say how happy i am about them.

I have to give this coursework to my teacher tomorrow and when i first thought about the topic i was like oh my god where can i get information about british football from. And the best way was to talk to british people

I thank you so so so so much!!!
This forum is a very good example of how football unites people

and i have to ask if i can copy your answers just like you wrote them here

Yes you can copy mine if you wish

I am happy to have helped you

jonesy · 09-03-2008, 16:14

Fine by me too if they were of any use.

superally · 09-03-2008, 16:18

My views may not be of much use,if i'm referring to celtic.

YIDDO · 09-03-2008, 19:41

Welcome, that's if you're sticking around.

Please let us sign Manuel Neuer yes:

08-03-2008, 15:56	#1
Anne_S04 Football Fan Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Germany I Support: FC Schalke 04 Posts: 10 Nominations: : 0 Nominated 0 Threads Rep Power: 0	Football as a symbol of british identity :) Hello Guys... my name is Anne and im from germany. Im a big fooball fan and thats why i now have to do a coursework about it in school....in english. My teacher and i decided that my coursework has to have the title " Football as a symbol of british identity". That means i have to describe how football in England or Britain helps for example minorities, especially ethinic minorities, to integrate into society and how football makes england to what it is. (Because i know it is a big part of your culture just like it is here in germany) And now i have some questions and i wanted to as if you could help me? Because it might be cool to talk to some english football fans and how they see football in their country. thanks Anne __________________ Ein Leben lang blau und weiß ein Leben lang!!!

08-03-2008, 16:02	#2
superally Drunken Admin! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Little Aston.. I Support: The Queens Eleven! I am 87 years old Posts: 12,519 Nominations: : 3 Nominated 6 Threads Rep Power: 10	Best way to find out,is to take part in the forum.Then judge us for yourselves. Am moving thread to new signings forum. Welcome BTW! __________________ Celtic FC-Ashamed to be Scottish since 1888.-The Famine is Over-Why Don't You Go Home?! VVV Click The Wee Red Thing VVV Help fight Breast Cancer Click Daily. Last edited by superally; 08-03-2008 at 16:06.

09-03-2008, 00:04	#6
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09-03-2008, 08:37	#7
Anne_S04 Football Fan Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Germany I Support: FC Schalke 04 Posts: 10 Nominations: : 0 Nominated 0 Threads Rep Power: 0	Thanks for this warm welcome okay then...here are my questions: 1. In what way do you think can football unite people in Britain? 2. Does it have a big influence on your life is it a part of your identity? 3. Do you think immigrants can get integrated better through football? And my last questions has something to do with the english national team. Why do you always sing your national anthem during a football match of the national team? (i mean not before the match but when it has aleady started) Could the national anthem be seen as some kind of symbol of integration, because when i watch a match of the english national team i see everyone sing it. English people as well as asians and people of other ethnicities. i hope you can understand my question thank you!!! __________________ Ein Leben lang blau und weiß ein Leben lang!!!

09-03-2008, 08:57	#8
jonesy Football Fan Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pontypridd I Support: Newcastle United Posts: 7,639 Nominations: : 2 Nominated 0 Threads Rep Power: 8	I probably shouldn't answer these questions because I'm Welsh not English, but to be honest although football can unite communities in terms of unifying Britain, i've always found it to be more divisive. I have only got Rugby union to compare, but the fans there are never segregated - there's no need. Banter and passion exist, but never anything more sinister. Can't see why football can't be the same. As for being part of my identity? No not really, only in the sense that It's a favourite passtime. I suppose the only other influence is the fact that as a woman I sometimes feel isolated as a fan. Don't know about the immigrant thing. No personal experience, better off talking to someone from a large city for that. Shouldn't comment at all on the English national team, only to say the National Anthem is shite. It's weak and irrelevant to most people in the country. It's about time they got a new one, something more rousing and passionate. I'd complain that technically its the British national anthem but frankly, they can keep it! __________________


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09-03-2008, 09:35	#9
boro_boy Administrator Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Middlesbrough I Support: Middlesbrough I am 27 years old Posts: 16,274 Nominations: : 10 Nominated 5 Threads Rep Power: 10	You should answer the questions as its about british football. Anyway he's my answers: 1. In what way do you think can football unite people in Britain? Football brings together people from all backgrounds and nationalities / religions. Its crazy as everyone are friends inside the ground and get on with one another, then they are friends outside the ground also. You have Muslims having a laugh with Christians and Non Believers. Away from relegion you have fans from Norway, USA and other places from around the world who make the odd trip to the Riverside. I think its great and its great for the local community also. 2. Does it have a big influence on your life is it a part of your identity? Yes it does, when you are out talking to people, say on a night out in the town centre, football always gets discussed and you always ask who they support. I think that has a big affect on the way people look at you, well it does with me anyway, if I'm speaking to a person from Middlesbrough and they support Manchester United. I'm like, why? Then they tell me, and then I will judge them . Also I have a big car sticker in the back window of my Clio 182 and it feels great driving around Portsmouth with than on show just to let people know who I support 3. Do you think immigrants can get integrated better through football? I'm not sure about immigrants because they really can't afford to go to games so they don't really get integrated with the local community that way. To be honest I don't think they get integrated with the local community anyway, they just keep themselves to themselves, maybe it would be a good idea to get them involved with the club, give the club and the community something as we have given them food and shelter, well the local council has. Why do you always sing your national anthem during a football match of the national team? (i mean not before the match but when it has already started) Could the national anthem be seen as some kind of symbol of integration, because when i watch a match of the english national team i see everyone sing it. English people as well as asians and people of other ethnicities. We sing it because we are proud to be English and we are proud of everything English. To see Asians and other ethnic minorities singing it is great. I honestly don't mind them coming over hear and sharing our values. What I don't like is the people coming over hear and trying to change the law, carrying out forces marriages etc, basically not living by our rules / laws. Thanks __________________ An optimist will tell you the glass is half-full; the pessimist, half-empty; and the engineer will tell you the glass is twice the size it needs to be!

09-03-2008, 10:05	#11
Anne_S04 Football Fan Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Germany I Support: FC Schalke 04 Posts: 10 Nominations: : 0 Nominated 0 Threads Rep Power: 0	:thumbup1: wow!!! thank you for your answers! I cant say how happy i am about them. I have to give this coursework to my teacher tomorrow and when i first thought about the topic i was like oh my god where can i get information about british football from. And the best way was to talk to british people I thank you so so so so much!!! This forum is a very good example of how football unites people and i have to ask if i can copy your answers just like you wrote them here __________________ Ein Leben lang blau und weiß ein Leben lang!!!

09-03-2008, 16:14	#13
jonesy Football Fan Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pontypridd I Support: Newcastle United Posts: 7,639 Nominations: : 2 Nominated 0 Threads Rep Power: 8	Fine by me too if they were of any use. __________________

09-03-2008, 16:18	#14
superally Drunken Admin! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Little Aston.. I Support: The Queens Eleven! I am 87 years old Posts: 12,519 Nominations: : 3 Nominated 6 Threads Rep Power: 10	My views may not be of much use,if i'm referring to celtic. __________________ Celtic FC-Ashamed to be Scottish since 1888.-The Famine is Over-Why Don't You Go Home?! VVV Click The Wee Red Thing VVV Help fight Breast Cancer Click Daily.

09-03-2008, 19:41	#15
YIDDO Football Fan Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: North London I Support: THFC I am 28 years old Posts: 2,885 Nominations: : 2 Nominated 1 Thread Rep Power: 4	Welcome, that's if you're sticking around. Please let us sign Manuel Neuer yes: __________________

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