"Moderate" Muslim Mosques - Undercover!

[Lennon Saviour of E]

Dispatches tonight (Mon) Ch4 8.00.

It can only be a good thing for us to learn more about our Muslim community, what makes em tick
and all that.

Should be interesting and educational.

[paddy]

Thanks for the tip, I'll watch it. Sounds interesting.

[Lennon Saviour of E]

Originally Posted by paddy

Thanks for the tip, I'll watch it. Sounds interesting.

It should be well boss.

But don't have nightmares.

[boro_boy]

I'll be watching this tonight. Should be very interesting to say the lease.

[Lennon Saviour of E]

Originally Posted by boro_boy

I'll be watching this tonight. Should be very interesting to say the lease.

just a taster:

The undercover TV inquiry, conducted over ten months, reveals some religious clerics urging their congregations to start preparing for jihad (holy war) against infidels or non-Muslims. Another is caught on camera telling families to hit their daughters for not covering their heads with the veil or hijab.

One imam from a Derby mosque, called Dr Ijaz Mian, was filmed calling for the creation of an Islamic 'state within a state' in Britain before the country is taken over by Muslims.

Addressing a group of youths, he said: 'King. Queen. House of Commons ... if you accept it, you are part of it. If you don't accept it, you have to dismantle it. So you being a Muslim, you have to fix a target. There will be no House of Commons ... Muslims just grow in strength ... then take over.'

The programme paints an alarming picture of how preachers, even at what are regarded as the most moderate mosques, urge their followers to reject Britain's legal system in favour of shariah law and its radical rulebook.

The investigators spent four months filming undercover at one mosque, Green Lane in Birmingham, which caters for thousands of worshippers.

The main preacher is Abu Usamah, an American convert to Islam, who studied at Medinah University in Saudi Arabia, before coming to Britain. He is seen telling worshippers not to believe that Islamic terrorists are operating in Britain, as all non-Muslims are liars.

In another sequence, he is heard saying that Christians and Jews are 'kuffaars' (non-believers) and the enemies of Islam. 'No one loves the kuffaar, not a single person loves the kuffaar,' he rants. 'We hate the kuffaar!' Then he adds, triumphantly: 'Allah has not given those people who are kuffaar a way over the believer. They shouldn't be in authority over us. Muslims shouldn't be satisfied with anything other than a total Islamic state.

'I encourage all of you to begin to cultivate ourselves for the time that is fast approaching - where the tables are going to turn and the Muslims are going to be in the position of being uppermost in strength. And when that happens, people won't get killed - unjustly,' he promises.

As for women, he says they are 'deficient, even if they have a PhD. Her intellect is incomplete. She may be suffering from hormones that will make her emotional. It takes two witnesses of a woman to equal the one witness of a man.'

He goes on to say that gays deserve to die. 'If I were to call homosexuals perverted, dirty, filthy dogs who should be murdered ... that's my freedom of speech, isn't it?'

The TV investigators also bought damning videos and DVDs of speeches by Muslim preachers from a shop at the London Central Mosque in Regent's Park.

The mosque has always been hailed by the Muslim Council of Britain and the Government as a symbol of reason and mainstream Islamic life in this country.

But the programme's team found copies of films of preachers decrying the equality of women as a 'bunch of foolishness' and claiming that Christian missionaries put the Aids virus into medicines in order to poison the people of Africa.

The TV exposé, like the Mail's own investigation in Surrey, shows that the systematic brainwashing of Muslims by their religious leaders is now commonplace. And it appears to be producing results.

Just five months ago, a national survey of 1,000 British Muslims, including the young and the old, male and female, revealed that 30 per cent wanted to live under shariah law and less than half referred to the United Kingdom as their country.

Twenty-eight per cent said they believed Britain should be an Islamic state. In another worrying sign, one in three young Muslims said that the London bombings were justified because Britain had joined America in the 'war on terror'.

[boro_boy]

I honestly think we will have a Civil war within 10 -15 years time if they continue to preech this shit.

[Middlesbrough No1 Fan]

8:00 nah eastenders is on then coranation street... yes: so ill give it a miss..

[Lennon Saviour of E]

Originally Posted by The Realist

8:00 nah eastenders is on then coranation street... yes: so ill give it a miss..

Not so much a realist as a mong eh.

[Middlesbrough No1 Fan]

Originally Posted by Lennon Saviour of E

Not so much a realist as a mong eh.

_smile: aww boo hoo he called me a mong _smile:

Rather be a mong than a dickhead thats up his own arse...

[Lennon Saviour of E]

Originally Posted by The Realist

_smile: aww boo hoo he called me a mong _smile:

Rather be a mong than a dickhead thats up his own arse...

I'm afraid you have no choice.

Enjoy your girlie cretin fodder.

[cliffy]

Originally Posted by The Realist

_smile: aww boo hoo he called me a mong _smile:

Rather be a mong than a dickhead thats up his own arse...

haha:

[Middlesbrough No1 Fan]

Originally Posted by Lennon Saviour of E

I'm afraid you have no choice.

Enjoy your girlie cretin fodder.

so im a mong for watching coranation street and eastenders...

I hate to break this to you but people do like different things to you.. if everyone was the same as you the world would be bloody boring...

[Lennon Saviour of E]

Originally Posted by The Realist

so im a mong for watching coranation street and eastenders...

I think it's more of a "symptom" of mongism.

[Simonutd]

and who say religion dont cause much problems, seems like there trying to cause a few if you ask me,

[Lennon Saviour of E]

Originally Posted by simonutd

and who say religion dont cause much problems, seems like there trying to cause a few if you ask me,

It was discussed all morning on Talksport today.

I take it no one actually watched it then.