Will the Old Firm teams EVER win ANYTHING in Europe? [Archive] - My Football Forum

Ronaldo

12-05-2007, 13:23

2 good teams in their league, i suppose one of them could do a liverpool and field a reserve team to rest for the CL. They'd still end winning about 7-0

cliffy

12-05-2007, 13:38

I reckon one of them could win the UEFA cup.

poolie_chick

12-05-2007, 13:40

Wigsit you divvy lol. By the way, hi you little part timer you!

cliffy

12-05-2007, 13:45

why am I a divvy lol?

poolie_chick

12-05-2007, 13:48

Cos I said so, maybe? :nodyes:

kiko

12-05-2007, 13:48

I don't see why not.

Comanche_Country

12-05-2007, 14:15

if we got the same tv money that prem teams get then we would

westboy

12-05-2007, 14:49

The TV companies would give you as much money as prem teams if as many people wanted to watch the SPL.

Comanche_Country

12-05-2007, 16:08

well them this is a stupid topic then, yeah lets all laugh at the old firm cause they cannae win fuck all, cause there in a country with a small population, does it make you feel big

poolie_chick

12-05-2007, 16:15

It was a question. Nobody was taking the pee. Chillax a tad, mate.

Comanche_Country

12-05-2007, 16:18

it just shits me when people like that start these threads to take the piss, everyone knows the answer to his question, we couldnt win a raffle

hailhail7

12-05-2007, 19:37

nope there dog shit! can you really even call it a league?

Listen, West Ham couldn't even win Dog shit.

Celtic got to the final of the UEFA cup a few years ago so it's not completely outwith the bounds of reality.

cliffy

12-05-2007, 19:57

hailhail7

12-05-2007, 20:56

Its possible for the UEFA cup. In the future, maybe even the CL. No one knows what the future of the SPL will be. In a few years there could be mass interest in it and loads of money might get ploughed into it.

Dunno about the CL right enough. Perhaps Dermot would blow some of his 1.4 billion fortune on us. Then again, Guinea pigs might fly:cry_smile:

johnny_S

13-05-2007, 01:00

Comanche_Country

13-05-2007, 02:56

if we were let into the premier league we would have a good chance

hailhail7

13-05-2007, 11:13

speaking as a rangers fan
my response is NO

certain leagues in europe are becoming stronger year in year out, whilst others rest still and go backwards the SPl is going nowhere,

Celtic fans may disagree but non of the oldfirm are gonna win any european trophy until a major change is made

The league in Portugal isn't particularly strong and doesn't get the financial clout of the EPL. But Porto still produced a team to win the UEFA then the CL recently. The Old firm can still get seeded depending on our co-efficient. So you can never rule out an unlikely cup run as it depends on the luck of the draw to an extent. I think it is negative to think that the OF would never again win any sort of European tournament. Unlikely, yes.

superally

14-05-2007, 19:44

Has an ALL English team ever won anything in Europe????

hailhail7

14-05-2007, 19:55

Has an ALL English team ever won anything in Europe????

Good point Supers:thumbup1:

westboy

14-05-2007, 20:25

Good point but it's not really important.

superally

14-05-2007, 20:28

Good point but it's not really important.

Well have they or havent they??

Answers please.

HH may enjoy this one..

johnny_S

14-05-2007, 22:14

didnt a team full of scots once win the european cup

cant remember what team that was though:icon_redface:

westboy

15-05-2007, 07:58

I doubt it's happened for English team...

hailhail7

15-05-2007, 14:05

Well have they or havent they??

Answers please.

HH may enjoy this one..

We might be waiting a while for the English lads to answer this one.

kiko

15-05-2007, 14:28

Good point Supers:thumbup1:

Was the Celtic team all scottish? Genuine question.

United 68 team:
Stepney, Dunne(roi) , Foulkes, Stiles, Brennan, Sadler, Crerand(sco), Charlton, Best (ire),Kidd, Aston

Nearly.

kiko

15-05-2007, 14:36

Even Villa and Forest had there share of home nation players.

Oh well.

superally

15-05-2007, 18:40

Was the Celtic team all scottish? Genuine question.

United 68 team:
Stepney, Dunne(roi) , Foulkes, Stiles, Brennan, Sadler, Crerand(sco), Charlton, Best (ire),Kidd, Aston

Nearly.

All scottish,all born within a 30 mile radius of ceptic park btw.

westboy

15-05-2007, 19:01

Best was Scottish?

hailhail7

15-05-2007, 23:32

Best was Scottish?

If Belfast is in Scotland then he would be.:nodyes:

Comanche_Country

16-05-2007, 08:23

Dunno about the CL right enough. Perhaps Dermot would blow some of his 1.4 billion fortune on us. Then again, Guinea pigs might fly:cry_smile: ha ha well you lot just wasted a small fortune on Scott Brown 12mil over 5 years, lol

hailhail7

16-05-2007, 13:58

ha ha well you lot just wasted a small fortune on Scott Brown 12mil over 5 years, lol

Wasted I hear you say? The same player who certain hun pundits assured us had signed an 'agreement' with Rangers. You lot couldn't open up the buiscuit tin to stretch to 4.4 million. Superb, I'm loving this.:nodyes:

superally

16-05-2007, 17:29

Best was Scottish?
WTF???
Best was a good ulsterman!Nothing to do with the OF.

May i also say that no ALL English team has ever won anything in Europe nor will they ever.Purely and simply because they have never been good enough.Nowadays we have the English based chelsea,arsenal,man u etc who are a collection of foreign allsorts.And the BEST British side EVER the Liverpool team of the 80s,
Had a solid backbone of scots Souness Dalglish Hansen. Who was the last English manager to manage a championship winning team????leeds in 93?,everton in 87? 2 in 20 years. Quality..

johnny_S

16-05-2007, 23:47

WTF???
Best was a good ulsterman!Nothing to do with the OF.

May i also say that no ALL English team has ever won anything in Europe nor will they ever.Purely and simply because they have never been good enough.Nowadays we have the English based chelsea,arsenal,man u etc who are a collection of foreign allsorts.And the BEST British side EVER the Liverpool team of the 80s,
Had a solid backbone of scots Souness Dalglish Hansen. Who was the last English manager to manage a championship winning team????leeds in 93?,everton in 87? 2 in 20 years. Quality..

That should be the next question?

Will an English Manager ever win the premiership again?? OOPPs:LolLolLolLol:

superally

17-05-2007, 05:10

That should be the next question?

Will an English Manager ever win the premiership again?? OOPPs:LolLolLolLol:

Yeah!! Maybe HH could ask it in the prem forum.:LolLolLolLol:

kiko

17-05-2007, 10:05

All scottish,all born within a 30 mile radius of ceptic park btw.

Even more the achievement.

I wonder how many teams have actually won it with a full team made up of one nationality.

hailhail7

17-05-2007, 10:41

Yeah!! Maybe HH could ask it in the prem forum.:LolLolLolLol:

We wouldn't want to upset our English friends now, would we??

superally

17-05-2007, 17:43

We wouldn't want to upset our English friends now, would we??

Speak for yourself!!:thumbup:
Do ya want me to??
I thought since it was celtics achievment the honour should be all yours myself!!

Comanche_Country

18-05-2007, 13:33

was there any other nationalities other than Scottish, in the Rangers team that won the Cup Winners Cup in 1972?

hailhail7

18-05-2007, 14:14

was there any other nationalities other than Scottish, in the Rangers team that won the Cup Winners Cup in 1972?

Dunno. I'd imagine most, if not all were Scottish.

superally

18-05-2007, 16:38

Dunno. I'd imagine most, if not all were Scottish.

For the record the line up that night was...
Rangers: McCloy, Jardine, Greig (c), Johnstone, Mathieson, Smith, Conn, MacDonald, McLean, Stein, Johnston.

coach: Willie Waddell.

So thats 2 scottish teams with 2 European trophies and 2 teams full of scots.
How about the Aberdeen side of 83??

Line up..

Aberdeen (coach Alex Ferguson):
Jim Leighton, Doug Rougvie, John McMaster, Neale Cooper, Alex McLeish, Willie Miller (captain), Gordon Strachan, Neil Simpson, Mark McGhee, Eric Black (sub: 87 John Hewitt), Peter Weir.

Not sure about Cooper,he may have been Welsh.

hailhail7

18-05-2007, 21:50

For the record the line up that night was...
Rangers: McCloy, Jardine, Greig (c), Johnstone, Mathieson, Smith, Conn, MacDonald, McLean, Stein, Johnston.

coach: Willie Waddell.

So thats 2 scottish teams with 2 European trophies and 2 teams full of scots.
How about the Aberdeen side of 83??

Line up..

Aberdeen (coach Alex Ferguson):
Jim Leighton, Doug Rougvie, John McMaster, Neale Cooper, Alex McLeish, Willie Miller (captain), Gordon Strachan, Neil Simpson, Mark McGhee, Eric Black (sub: 87 John Hewitt), Peter Weir.

Not sure about Cooper,he may have been Welsh.

Neale Cooper was born in India but had British/Scottish nationality. Perhaps through his parents and/or place of upbringing. So thats 3 teams.