Chelsea v United [Giggs goal that wasn't] [Archive] - My Football Forum

boro_boy

19-05-2007, 17:19

Was the giggs goal a goal or not?

Giggs pushed the ball and the keeper over the line. Surely this could not have been given, I know it wasn't given but I'm just saying, any ref could not have given this!

poolie_chick

19-05-2007, 17:40

It should have been allowed just to put the $hits up Chelsea :nodyes:

Ronaldo

19-05-2007, 17:45

It should of been allowed but I doubt the ref would of seen if it crossed the line, they had trouble on the Tv

cliffy

19-05-2007, 17:55

Theres no way it could have been given because it was a foul. I'm glad the Man Utd fans feel aggrieved as when things against boro went in favour for man utd and against boro, you all just said get over it :tt2:. What goes around, comes around. So.....

GET OVER IT :nodyes:

Simonutd

19-05-2007, 17:58

i didnt expect to win it, if we were told at the begining of the season you can have the premiership butnothing else i would have taken it, but in a game like that when your much the better team, and had a goal not given and palying a cheating team who were dirty, you think you should have won the game

cliffy

19-05-2007, 18:00

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42947000/jpg/_42947015_cup16.jpg

Even by looking at that pic you can clearly see its a foul. Cech had the ball in his hands before Giggs even got to him so when he pushed him over the line, its a foul no doubt.

triniboi101

19-05-2007, 18:03

there ya go....lets hear u now simon!

TheManInBlack

19-05-2007, 18:12

Ok, in my opinion it was a foul. That comes first, as the foul occured before the ball crossed the line.

Yes, it appeared to cross the line. Video evidence is not though 100% conclusive (you wouldn't want to decide a match on the evidence available - it looked like it, but wasn't clear cut) so even if there were video replays, I'd doubt the goal would be given.

If Mr Bennett saw no foul, then it was unfortunate that there was no way they could spot the ball over the line. But in my opinion quite a clear foul, Bennett should have given the free kick to avoid all the controversy here.

Fergie reckons it was a penalty in the build up (Giggs was pushed into Cech). Don't buy it personally.

I_AM_CANADIAN!

19-05-2007, 18:15

Ronaldo

19-05-2007, 18:19

Yeah, it was a foul and shouldn't have been a goal, but this is really starting to f*cking piss me off. This is the 2nd straight time we've totally dominated an FA Cup Final and lost, against Arsenal in '05 we could have been up 3 or 4 to nothing by the end but just couldn't win it... ghey. Damn stupid London teams. :tt2:

Oh and triniboi101: 1996. Case closed.

What makes it worse is that they've had it so easy too. Macclesfield who had to play the second half with a defender in goal, norwich, nott'm forest, blackburn and got extremely lucky with Tottenham whereas we've Prem teams every round.

thereyouhaveit

19-05-2007, 18:26

well the ball DID cross the line, the ref never gave a free kick for a foul so it would have stood, how fcuking great it is to see them get robbed :roflmao:

Simonutd

19-05-2007, 18:44

well the ball DID cross the line, the ref never gave a free kick for a foul so it would have stood, how fcuking great it is to see them get robbed :roflmao:

and thereyouhaveit, comin from an arse fan aswell, there would have been an indication that it was a foul and play on

Craig

19-05-2007, 18:48

Come on Chelsea! Was it fuck a goal, And how can anyone call Chelsea cheating cunts when they support Man U?

Kolo

19-05-2007, 18:52

IMO should of been a foul, Giggs could of fractured cech's head! :animatedfear:

triniboi101

19-05-2007, 18:56

What makes it worse is that they've had it so easy too. Macclesfield who had to play the second half with a defender in goal, norwich, nott'm forest, blackburn and got extremely lucky with Tottenham whereas we've Prem teams every round.

yeh i giv you that one man. cheski's draws have been ridiculous.

boro_boy

19-05-2007, 19:00

It doesn't matter how you both got to the final. The final itself was probably the worst i've seen in a long time. But you didn't take your chances, Chelsea did.

Kolo

19-05-2007, 19:01

It doesn't matter how you both got to the final. The final itself was probably the worst i've seen in a long time. But you didn't take your chances, Chelsea did.

HA! What did i say??? Boring Match and what was it? A Boring Match

boro_boy

19-05-2007, 19:08

Ferguson said: "It's a penalty. To lose a game and see that is disappointing.

"I think the pressure Jose Mourinho put on the referee before the game has certainly worked and I'm disappointed at that."

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hahaha, funny. How do you feel!!! What goes around, comes around. :)

Simonutd

19-05-2007, 19:21

moronio done it most of the season about the ref's, i think the goal should have been allowed, and giggs was robbed

boro_boy

19-05-2007, 19:25

I can't wait till this comes onto the net so we can all view it and then tell you how wrong you are.

Simonutd

19-05-2007, 19:27

whatever, you will be like "ok maybe you were right but now you know how we feel blah blah", it was a good goal and cheating chelsea cheated again

thereyouhaveit

19-05-2007, 19:28

I can't wait till this comes onto the net so we can all view it and then tell you how wrong you are.

replays showed it had crossed the line, well on skysports it did at the time.

boro_boy

19-05-2007, 19:30

It showed it on the BBC also. But it was a foul, even though the ref didn't give it.

Simonutd

19-05-2007, 19:30

we know that TYHI but he and the rest of the boro fans thinks it was a foul on the keeper

thereyouhaveit

19-05-2007, 19:31

It showed it on the BBC also. But it was a foul, even though the ref didn't give it.

yes it was and this makes it sooooooooo sweet because had the ref or linesman seen it go over it would have stood :nodyes:

hailhail7

19-05-2007, 19:47

Even if the ball is over the line it wouldn't have counted. Giggs fouled the keeper.

thereyouhaveit

19-05-2007, 20:03

Even if the ball is over the line it wouldn't have counted. Giggs fouled the keeper.

which has been said about a million times but the ref never blew the whistle for a foul.

hammer9

19-05-2007, 20:07

notts ref

19-05-2007, 20:38

Giggs goal was GOAL! its over the line...but never mind!:nodyes: so its time for goalline video! ;)

great game, well done Chelsea, im glad they won!:thumbup: im bit angry with Jose because he should come on Joe Cole, not Ashley Cole!!?!? :no2:

anyway its perfect 50/50! :eusa_clap:

Man Utd got Title!
Chelsea got FA Cup!

Great game??? Which game was that then??

Could have been the most boring final i've witnessed apart from Arsenal v Southampton.

Anyway, was a goal, but as said earlier, HAD it gone to video replay, I don't think they would have been able to give it.

Apart from that Bennett was pretty decent. Which is more than can be said for Poll on Friday night at Forest, but thats a completely different story.

superally

19-05-2007, 21:13

Fook em all,should have been a goal..
I want a replay..

hailhail7

19-05-2007, 21:56

which has been said about a million times but the ref never blew the whistle for a foul.

He fuckin well didn't have to ya fucking half wit.

superally

19-05-2007, 21:58

He fuckin well didn't have to ya fucking half wit.

Good point..I still wanna replay.

hailhail7

19-05-2007, 22:00

Good point..I still wanna replay.

Yeah so do I. But do you really want to see that shite again??

superally

20-05-2007, 04:06

Yeah so do I. But do you really want to see that shite again??

Well no but i still wanna replay.

westboy

20-05-2007, 13:41

I think it proves we need goal line technology. If I had to say one thing I'd say it crossed the line. In this case it didn't matter - I'll be the 1093741903th person to say it was a foul anyway. Anyone who says it wasn't either didn't watch the game or don't know the rules or are just bitter.

You can't blame Ferguson for whinging though - Mourinhio always does it and also he's not used to things not always going his way.

As for Chelsea having an easy ride to the final United's was just as easy. Yes they played premiership teams in every round but they were all mid-table, Chelsea had Spurs which was the toughest tie and Man Utd had Watford who are hardly a premiership team, in the semis whilst Chelsea had Blackburn.

wednesday4life

20-05-2007, 13:47

it doesn't prove anything- goal line technology wouldn't have changed the outcome, so how can it possibly prove a need for it?

westboy

20-05-2007, 13:49

there's no down side to it though, if it works once then it's worthwhile imo

boro_boy

20-05-2007, 13:53

it doesn't prove anything- goal line technology wouldn't have changed the outcome, so how can it possibly prove a need for it?
No but if fergie would have called for it, they would have looked at it and then they would have given a foul on the keeper. So it would have cleared it all up.

westboy

20-05-2007, 13:54

They didn't have to make the decision about whether their was a foul on the keeper as they thought Cech had caught it on the line but goalline technology can't decide whether the keeper was fouled or not...

boro_boy

20-05-2007, 13:58

Wouldn't goal line technology have cameras and people monitoring it? Surely it would have to for incidents like this.

westboy

20-05-2007, 14:15

This is the 2nd straight time we've totally dominated an FA Cup Final and lost, against Arsenal in '05 we could have been up 3 or 4

:hahaha: How can you say that Man Utd dominated. I'll get the stats, but there's no way either team dominated.

wednesday4life

20-05-2007, 14:27

westboy

20-05-2007, 14:41

that's not a downside it's just saying that goal line technology will help in some circumstances and not others. If we had it, then some of the decisions would be conclusive (obvious one to think of...mendes' goal v man utd) and others would be the same. I don't see the downside there other than expense.

wednesday4life

20-05-2007, 15:02

course it's a downside- the referee doesn't see a foul, but finds out the ball has crossed the line wrong decision. the referee doesn't see a foul but also doesn't see the ball cross the line at least he's come up with the right decision

westboy

21-05-2007, 07:59

He probably thought it was a foul just didn't bother blowing because the ball was in Cech's hands and he thought it was in front (or at least not behind) the line so didn't want to give Man Utd players a chance to complain so let play go on.