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Old 30-11-2007, 08:30   #1
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Arsenal Foriegn players, where do u stand?

My mate who is a spurs fan wrote this, obvioulsy a bit jealous of Arsenals success, never the less its a good piece so I thought I'd share it with everyone

There’s a major issue at the moment with the talk of limiting the amount of foreign players playing in English football. Personally, I would rather see home grown players who support the club coming through the ranks. I think supporters have more affinity with them than non English speaking foreigners.

I agree with having players like Ronaldo, Tevez, Fabregas, Drogba etc playing, but its the average cheaply bought foreigners that are spoiling the game especially at less fashionable clubs in the premiership and coca cola leagues.

I think a split of a maximum 6 foreign players and a minimum of 5 home grown in each club, would force clubs to invest in youth football. You only have to look at Crewe, probably the most successful youth development club in the football league. They can now no longer afford to run their academy and are resorting to foreign free transfers rather than released players from the premiership.

Surely you would prefer your best players to be English and represent the national team. Only 10 years ago Arsenal where winning the Premier with a team of mainly English players. Seaman, Dixon, Winterburn, Adams, Merson, Wright etc.
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Old 30-11-2007, 08:42   #2
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I'm sure this has been discussed quite a few times on here, but some good points raised there. I don't agree with him saying about only foreign players in less successful teams is an issue. If you were in a team like Middlesbrough who are neither here nor there in the prem, would you like to think that it was ok for the likes of Arsenal and Man Utd to have loads of foreign players, but you're only allowed six? I wouldn't think so.

However, if the rule did apply to ALL teams, then I do think it would be a good idea. Like it's already been said, it would allow players to develop better here instead of just getting foreigners in all the time.

The only problem would be if a player got injured... what if it was an English player who got injured half way through a match and the only suitable subs for the team were foreign?
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Old 30-11-2007, 13:17   #3
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My mate who is a spurs fan wrote this, obvioulsy a bit jealous of Arsenals success, never the less its a good piece so I thought I'd share it with everyone

There’s a major issue at the moment with the talk of limiting the amount of foreign players playing in English football. Personally, I would rather see home grown players who support the club coming through the ranks. I think supporters have more affinity with them than non English speaking foreigners.

I agree with having players like Ronaldo, Tevez, Fabregas, Drogba etc playing, but its the average cheaply bought foreigners that are spoiling the game especially at less fashionable clubs in the premiership and coca cola leagues.

I think a split of a maximum 6 foreign players and a minimum of 5 home grown in each club, would force clubs to invest in youth football. You only have to look at Crewe, probably the most successful youth development club in the football league. They can now no longer afford to run their academy and are resorting to foreign free transfers rather than released players from the premiership.

Surely you would prefer your best players to be English and represent the national team. Only 10 years ago Arsenal where winning the Premier with a team of mainly English players. Seaman, Dixon, Winterburn, Adams, Merson, Wright etc.
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Old 30-11-2007, 13:55   #4
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I guess some cap would be ok. But something like you must have 4 english players in your team. Then again, if clubs want to import players who look like Freddie Ljungberg or Thierry Henry, then i aint complaining! :o)
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lets go with Jen's ruling, that goes on looks rather than nationality, that way Keown would never have got a game lol
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Id happily pay to see the likes of Henri.And in the past Cantona,also liked Dugarry,
problem i see is there are too many average foreign players,keeping English youngsters out of teams.
Doesnt help develop home grown talent!
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I am mate, but friend wrote thart article, its the only way the Spuds can get one over on us!

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Old 01-12-2007, 13:05   #9
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There will always be people blaming players from afar for the decline in the "English Game", we won the World Cup in 66, but for years after, no success, in the 60's 70's and most of the 80's there were very few overseas players in English football, so that was not the reason for a lack of International success.

The influx of some of the Worlds greats playing in England is good for our game, it is the best league in the World. If young English players are simply not good enough to make it big in the game, so what, so many kids these days are more interested in playing computer games than working on their left foot.

Sure I would love to see a Leeds team with 11 Yorkshire lads wearing the shirt and trooping out to grace Elland Road, but it ain't going to happen. I am not however xenophobic, so if Leeds fielded 6 Brazilians, 2 Italians, 1 Scotsman, 1 Frenchman and 1 Chinaman it would not bother me in the slightest if we were doing well.

Football is a Worldwide game to be enjoyed, so let fans just get on with supporting their team and enjoying the skill of the players who turn out and represent the shirt :
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Old 02-12-2007, 11:30   #11
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i totally agree too, I was having a dig at my Spurs mate. They have spent well over 50 million on very average English players over the last few years, Dawson, Reid, Jenas, Bent, mind you thay have also spent loads on some very average foriegn players too!

Did anyone see Arsenal in the first half yesterday? Was that the best performance this season or not?
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news feeds were saying it was like watching holland in the 70's, total football, and without Fabregas.
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Yeah I agree, they are superb to watch, every player on the park can use both feet, they play it on the deck, the interplay and movement is excellent.

I would love to watch Wenger and his training staff work with the players for a week or so. The Arsenal training sessions would be an education for anyone:
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I'd rather have a great premier league than see the national team do well, but if teams like Crewe can't fund their acadamey it's worrying for sport in general and from what people are saying it sounds like there are players out there who are quality but not getting a chance to develop talent.

Basically something needs to be done, but you can't blame Ronaldo, Drogba, Fabregas etc. for the problem
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I'd rather have a great premier league than see the national team do well, but if teams like Crewe can't fund their acadamey it's worrying for sport in general and from what people are saying it sounds like there are players out there who are quality but not getting a chance to develop talent.

Basically something needs to be done, but you can't blame Ronaldo, Drogba, Fabregas etc. for the problem
If football academies are to flourish it is up to the FA to ensure that the tremendous amount of money generated in the game today filters down to every club for the funding in operating and running academies.

But you and I have heard, read and listened to this year after year. What is particularly sickening is the tremendous amount of money for instance that was paid to the swede and mclaren, money paid for months to the swede after he had gone and the 2-3 million whatever it is to mclaren.

I ain't blaming those 2, a contract is a contract and they ain't going to turn the money down. But the system is wrong, the future development of football in this country needs changing. But we hear that year after year.

You are right Drogba, Fabregas etc are paid to perform and enlighten the Premiership, I believe they do and that is what makes the Premiership IMO the best league in World club football.

But regarding the development of youngsters, I watched the second half of the FA Cup 3rd round game today between Harrogate Railway and Mansfield, evidently H Railway have a youth policy involving youngsters from under 6 upwards. Now hundreds of other small town clubs have these set ups, but at the end of the day if young English lads don't make the grade and are not as talented or gifted as their counterparts from afar, then it is obvious that the top clubs will only buy or nurture the best:
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