Celtic, And The Missed Opportunity.

[superally]

Since the start of this millenium. Rangers have been in dire straits. Having to constantly sell,their best player's. Not being able to splash out on real quality signing's. Basically been financially fucked. Whilst celtic in that time have, had a big advantage financially, yet somehow have been unable to capitalise on it. Title count so far- Rangers 6- Celtic -5.
I am just wondering if celtic have spurned their best opportunity,to really race ahead of Rangers,and blew it?
Rangers now are debt free, And have money to spend.

Any thought's?
Well any sensible thought's.

[Darren]

I have got to agree with that, and you would certainly think that Rangers can only progress now from here.

[itownvillan]

proper management and motivation had a lot to do with it. imo Celtic havent had a decent manager since MON, and it shows.

Rangers on the other hand have had the brilliance of Sir Walter, and the motivation of the legend that is Ally McCoist to spur them on and get them playing to their full potential.

i also think Murray Park has a lot to do with it, who wouldnt want to train and work in facilities that brilliant?

[superally]

proper management and motivation had a lot to do with it. imo Celtic havent had a decent manager since MON, and it shows.

Yet Wee strapon,who succeeded MON, won 3 titles in a row, which MON couldnt do.. one of which was head to head with Sir Walter.
Celtic have their new training complex, which like their ground was done on the cheap, but is still a decent facility.

[itownvillan]

Yet Wee strapon,who succeeded MON, won 3 titles in a row, which MON couldnt do.. one of which was head to head with Sir Walter.
Celtic have their new training complex, which like their ground was done on the cheap, but is still a decent facility.

i think that says as much about the quality of the Scottish league than anything. Look how shit Strachan was for Boro.

contrast that with MON's relative success at Villa, its clear who the better manager is.

giving kind of an outsider's opinion here, i like Rangers but i dont follow Scottish football religiously.

what are you opinons?

[superally]

i think that says as much about the quality of the Scottish league than anything. Look how shit Strachan was for Boro.

contrast that with MON's relative success at Villa, its clear who the better manager is.

giving kind of an outsider's opinion here, i like Rangers but i dont follow Scottish football religiously.


what are you opinons?

MON, spent a lot more at celtic, than wee strapon did. MON, spent a massive amount more at villa, than strapon did at boro.

And they both spent silly amount's more than Sir Walter.

Also McLeish has had more success at Blues, than MON at Villa, check the trophy count.

[itownvillan]

MON, spent a lot more at celtic, than wee strapon did. MON, spent a massive amount more at villa, than strapon did at boro.

And they both spent silly amount's more than Sir Walter.

Also McLeish has had more success at Blues, than MON at Villa, check the trophy count.

well thats a given, we play in different leagues.

and for what its worth, i dont think McLeish is a bad manager. he's not great, but he isnt bad by any means.

though next season you may be drinking fizzy pop out of that nice shiny cup you won....

[superally]

Seriously tho. I reckon ,ceptic over the last few years, have had the chance to get out of sight of Rangers, and have blew it big time. Could it haunt them now, that Rangers are debt free,No longer a selling club,and in a position to bring in a bit more quality?. As in the Rangers 9 in a row era, they got out of sight of celtic, thru financial superiority, Celtic have had 10 years of the same opportunity, but not took advantage. All they have done is take the piss out of Rangers finances, whilst Rangers have still picked up more honour's.

[itownvillan]

Seriously tho. I reckon ,ceptic over the last few years, have had the chance to get out of sight of Rangers, and have blew it big time. Could it haunt them now, that Rangers are debt free,No longer a selling club,and in a position to bring in a bit more quality?. As in the Rangers 9 in a row era, they got out of sight of celtic, thru financial superiority, Celtic have had 10 years of the same opportunity, but not took advantage. All they have done is take the piss out of Rangers finances, whilst Rangers have still picked up more honour's.

i agree, its even more perplexing considering all their overseas support (all the Japanese wanking over Nakamura, and all the plastic paddys in the US buying Celtic tops)

[superally]

i agree, its even more perplexing considering all their overseas support (all the Japanese wanking over Nakamura, and all the plastic paddys in the US buying Celtic tops)

Not forgetting the plastic scottish one's. some who have even changed their surnames by deed poll, To more oirish sounding one's.

[itownvillan]

sorry, do you mean plastic Scots in America, or plastic Paddys in Scotland (i took the last of the Nyquil i used when i was sick and things are starting to get fuzzy )

[superally]

sorry, do you mean plastic Scots in America, or plastic Paddys in Scotland (i took the last of the Nyquil i used when i was sick and things are starting to get fuzzy )

Plastic paddies in scotland and america.

[itownvillan]

Plastic paddies in scotland and america.

ah, gotcha.

i have nothing against the Irish, in fact i have a few Irish friends. but i still cant see why anybody would pretend to be something they arent. i mean, im half English but you dont see me walking around singing "God Save the Queen" or draping myself with St. George's cross. im an American, i respect and honor my heritage, but this is my country, and i wont show allegiance to another (i support England during the Euro though, and the WC as long as they arent playing the States, but its only natural with my background and i was born with dual citizenship).

arent a lot of these plastics in Scotland 3rd, 4th, 5th etc... generation Scots too? most of the plastic paddys in America call themselves "Irish" because "my great-great-great grandpa was Irish".

[superally]

Knicked from elsewhere, But a valid point, and good read.
At this point in time, we find ourselves in a position not dissimilar to where we were in 1991, with Sir David Murray still very much in the infancy of his 21 year tenure as chairman, Walter Smith OBE taking his first steps as a manager following the departure of Graeme Souness to Liverpool, money in the bank and the league trophy in the cabinet for the third year in a row. It was to be the third of nine as we are all aware, and few could have imagined then what the next 6 years would entail.

Combine this with the situation that Celtic find themselves in, having overspent vastly in an unsuccessful attempt to overcome a team who were unable to spend with any freedom for three years. They now find themselves £9m in debt with the prospect of no champions league football yet again.

In this period, we have seen off Gordon Strachan and Tony Mowbray, if we win the league next year I suspect we will see off Neil Lennon despite what he and the Celtic board have said in recent weeks.

Messer’s Whyte and McCoist now find themselves in a position, similar to that of their predecessors where they have the opportunity to begin to put real distance between us and the rest of the league for the foreseeable future.