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I've not read what the deal is which May has apparently gotten us. But for the EU to agree, it is surely a shit one for us!

I am hoping for a N0-Deal outcome which will be the best one for everyone involved in the UK.

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2 minutes ago, boro_boy said:

I've not read what the deal is which May has apparently gotten us. But for the EU to agree, it is surely a shit one for us!

I am hoping for a N0-Deal outcome which will be the best one for everyone involved in the UK.

If it doesn't go through Parliament then May will call a General Election rather than let one of the back stabbing Tories take her job....Corbyn will walk through the open door. Trust me there are way more Snowflakes out there than you think. 

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12 minutes ago, boro_boy said:

I fucking hate them. I can't see Labour getting into power!

hate to say it but Labour is a stick on mate. This deal that May has done will not be passed in the Commons. I can seriously see a 2nd referendum.

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14 minutes ago, Harold said:

hate to say it but Labour is a stick on mate. This deal that May has done will not be passed in the Commons. I can seriously see a 2nd referendum.

I hope not. If we do have a vote, I would still vote leave but I think a lot of people would vote remain. 

A second referendum should be a vote on what we want in the referendum and not a vote to remain or leave!

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40 minutes ago, boro_boy said:

I've not read what the deal is which May has apparently gotten us. But for the EU to agree, it is surely a shit one for us!

I am hoping for a N0-Deal outcome which will be the best one for everyone involved in the UK.

watched part of an interview on Sky News by Mark Francois MP regarding the Brexit & the farce of the 585 page Withdrawal agreement. Francois is a member of the European Research Group which has read the Withdrawal Agreement (W A) which is compiled in legalese wording in order for the man on the street to find it impossible to understand. The ERG has whittled this down into 7 pages....

Have a read at this.....gives you the detail in words the layman can understand.

The actual ERG document...


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6 minutes ago, boro_boy said:

I hope not. If we do have a vote, I would still vote leave but I think a lot of people would vote remain. 

A second referendum should be a vote on what we want in the referendum and not a vote to remain or leave!

Can't do that mate as it would be far too complicated and never ending. Plus....you would need to have a referendum on leaving....will never happen.

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1 hour ago, Harold said:

watched part of an interview on Sky News by Mark Francois MP regarding the Brexit & the farce of the 585 page Withdrawal agreement. Francois is a member of the European Research Group which has read the Withdrawal Agreement (W A) which is compiled in legalese wording in order for the man on the street to find it impossible to understand. The ERG has whittled this down into 7 pages....

Have a read at this.....gives you the detail in words the layman can understand.

The actual ERG document...


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That deal seems fucking AWFUL and I hope it doesn't get passed. 

Fuck me, May is a CUNT!

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Vote on the Withdrawal Agreement scheduled for the Commons tomorrow has been cancelled by May. She is making a statement in the Commons at 3.30pm today. Should be interesting viewing!

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22 minutes ago, Locke said:

The Conservatives just keep digging a deeper hole for themselves.

Not the Conservatives per se mate but May and those who support the Withdrawal Agreement. She says the (previously) non negotiable agreement with the EU will have to be re-negotiated regards the N Ireland backstop. Eh ? The most annoying thing for me in this debate is the continual requests/demands for a 'People's Vote'.....Give May credit, she has told them basically that we have had a 'People's Vote' !

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7 minutes ago, Harold said:

Not the Conservatives per se mate but May and those who support the Withdrawal Agreement. She says the (previously) non negotiable agreement with the EU will have to be re-negotiated regards the N Ireland backstop. Eh ? The most annoying thing for me in this debate is the continual requests/demands for a 'People's Vote'.....Give May credit, she has told them basically that we have had a 'People's Vote' !

May is a remainer and to all intents and purposes with the deal she has agreed we may as well remain in the EU.

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20 minutes ago, Locke said:

May is a remainer and to all intents and purposes with the deal she has agreed we may as well remain in the EU.

Can't disagree with that. What is on the table is certainly NOT what people who voted leave wanted. Far too many concessions given to these cunts! May is far too weak. Jacob Rees Mogg should have been the man for the negotiations....but May obviously knew that he would never accept the EU's demands!

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So now she is going back to the EU to beg a little more in the hope that she can dupe the doubters into voting for her deal.

There is no deal here. The deal is what we already have. The EU will still govern us in so many ways.

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I friend of mine of facebook just sent me this. 

Not sure how true any of it is.

& check this out I found on another post. Scary stuff.

From: Richard Knocker (Ex-pilot in the Gulf wars)

OK so we’ve had the worst-case scenario for leaving the EU given to us by numerous outlets ranging from the Bank of England to the spoiled prepubescent acting momentum supporter and everyone in-between.
So, I am now going to tell you the worst-case scenario of remaining in the EU based on actual known factors and figures, sourced from the public records of the UK Government, the EU Parliament, The Bank of England, the CBI, Migration watch, The Stock exchanges around the world, the IMF, and the UN.
So those of you who think that this little rant is a tin foil hat moment by myself think again and go and fully research and cross reference what I am about to tell you and remember this is worst-case scenario that could happen unless I clearly point out where it will happen by either a date or other factor. 

KNOWN OUTCOMES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN AGREED AS TRUE BY ALL SIDES:

1: The UK along with all existing members of the EU lose their abstention veto in 2020 as laid down in the Lisbon Treaty when the system changes to that of majority acceptance with no abstentions or veto’s being allowed.
2: All member nations will become states of the new federal nation of the EU by 2022 as clearly laid out in the Lisbon treaty with no exceptions or veto’s.
3: All member states must adopt the Euro by 2022 and any new member state must do so within 2 years of joining the EU as laid down in the Lisbon treaty.
4: The London stock exchange will move to Frankfurt in 2020 and be integrated into the EU stock exchange resulting in a loss of 200,000 plus jobs in the UK because of the relocation. This has already been pre-agreed and is only on a holding pattern due to the Brexit negotiations, which if Brexit does happen the move is fully cancelled but if not and the UK remains a member it’s full steam ahead for the move.
5: The EU Parliament and ECJ become supreme over all legislative bodies of the UK.
6: The UK will adopt 100% of whatever the EU Parliament and ECJ lays down without any means of abstention or veto, negating the need for the UK to have the Lords or even the Commons as we know it today.
7: The UK will NOT be able to make its own trade deals.
8: The UK will NOT be able to set its own trade tariffs.
9 The UK will NOT be able to set its own trade quotas.
10: The UK loses control of its fishing rights
11: The UK loses control of its oil and gas rights
12: The UK loses control of its borders and enters the Schengen region by 2022 as clearly laid down in the Lisbon treaty
13: The UK loses control of its planning legislation
14: The UK loses control of its armed forces including its nuclear deterrent
15: The UK loses full control of its taxation policy
16: The UK loses the ability to create its own laws and to implement them
17: The UK loses its standing in the Commonwealth
18: The UK loses control of any provinces or affiliated nations e.g.; Falklands, Cayman Islands, Gibraltar ect
19: The UK loses control of its judicial system
20: The UK loses control of its international policy
21: The UK loses full control of its national policy
22: The UK loses its right to call itself a nation in its own right.
23: The UK loses control of its space exploration program
24: The UK loses control of its Aviation and Sea lane jurisdiction 
25: The UK loses its rebate in 2020 as laid down in the Lisbon treaty
26: The UK’s contribution to the EU is set to increase by an average of 1.2bn pa and by 2.3bn pa by 2020

PROBABLE WORST-CASE OUTCOMES

1: The UK will become nothing more than a vassal protectorate state
2: With the continuation of freedom of movement, the population of the UK will continue to grow at a rate higher than pre-referendum level ranging between 400,000 to 675,000 per annum. 
2.1; Which will result in not just wage suppression but even wage depression. 
2.2; More than 500,000 new homes to be built annually (We are currently only managing 125,000)
2.3; House prices and rents will skyrocket annually by 23%
2.4; Class sizes in schools would have to increase by 50% if not even double 
2.5; The NHS will become solely an emergency service of care provider as they would no longer be able to cope with the numbers of people needing care other than those of emergency.
2.6; GP’s will become triage centres
2.7; Public transport will become permit holders use only
2.8; Only those that did a serious crime namely murder will be given a custodial sentence
2.9; The Court system becomes fully overrun to the point extreme cases only being heard and the rest being given an automatic fine
2.10; Emergency services collapsing for not being able to cope with the scale of things
2.11; Social care becoming solely private social care for those who can afford it.
2.12; Homelessness to increase by over 28% annually
2.13; Unemployment to increase annually by 37%
2.14; The Benefit system to collapse fully to the point of the return of soup kitchens and

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54 minutes ago, Locke said:

Can he back this ludicrous claim up?

Half the evidence is already there. We are well down the road to some of those thing's. Only an idiot couldn't see that.

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Brexit is in its arse.

EU leaders know this hence, no further renegotiations on their part.

They know we can't leave with no deal.

Brexit will not happen. They will call another referendum and we will stay.

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7 minutes ago, Locke said:

They will call another referendum

And Tony Blair will respect this result. I'd love to see his face if the result went the same way. Whinging cunts and politicians have done their utmost at every step of the way to stop Brexit. This has nothing to do with legal matters and all to do with the fact that the democratic result was not liked or accepted. From the public who voted, the entire process has been hijacked by politicians to their own ends. Shame on each and every fucking one of them! Democracy can be erased from the English vocabulary!

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21 minutes ago, Harold said:

And Tony Blair will respect this result. I'd love to see his face if the result went the same way. Whinging cunts and politicians have done their utmost at every step of the way to stop Brexit. This has nothing to do with legal matters and all to do with the fact that the democratic result was not liked or accepted. From the public who voted, the entire process has been hijacked by politicians to their own ends. Shame on each and every fucking one of them! Democracy can be erased from the English vocabulary!

Do you think Brexit is on its arse mate?

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10 minutes ago, Locke said:

Do you think Brexit is on its arse mate?

Unfortunately I do. The EU is not going to give May anything....what she has will never pass through a Commons vote. There are several options available but the one being screamed for by remainers is another referendum (It is not a People's Vote because we already have had that). However to hold another, the Government must put forward legislation and a majority vote for it must be passed in the Commons all of which will takes time. All in all, 29th March, 2019 seems dead in the water to me.

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Economists are saying property prices will fall by as much as 20% with no deal.

Branson has said no deal will bankrupt the UK.

All of this EU leaders know.

They have us us by the bollocks. 

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