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5 hours ago, The Realist said:

Have been through and survived far worse in the past and will do so again. I think there will be many more job losses in the near future. The growth rate could never continue at the rate it has been. Over the last 10-15 years, JLR must have created around 20000 jobs in the UK, so to lose a few hundred isn't that bad really. There is always highs and lows, joys and sorrows. Historically the motor industry goes through 7 year cycles, so what JLR have done for the UK is amazing, including adding £10 billion a year to the economy. They will survive have no fear of that.

Feel's a bit strange saying they rather than we, but hey ho, i am in the 2nd week of my notice period, having had a job offer that was way too good to turn down, most of all for the regular working hours rather than shifts, also 60 mile a day less travelling, the extra £30k a year is also nice, tho the F-Pace will be going back. 

Having regular hours, being able to plan thing's and take holidays when i like, rather than shutdowns is a major thing for me, being able to say to one of the kids or grandkids, i will be there at such and such, and actually knowing i will be there is almost priceless.

Isn't that what they give you holiday for?

Are you a millionaire yet? 

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On 04/12/2018 at 06:48, Locke said:

Isn't that what they give you holiday for?

Are you a millionaire yet? 

We get 5 floating days a year, the rest is shutdowns. Bear in mind midweek Blues games,and other things it's not really a lot is it.

As for the millionaire question, i am on paper, tho i cant really spend bricks and mortar down the pub. Mrs SA is the rich one in our house.

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Forgot to say, I have been told i have a big announcement to brief to my staff on Friday, as to what it contains i don't have a feckin clue, there is no doubt lots of rumours speculation etc, tho if us management at JLR don't know, not sure how anybody else claims too. The thing i despise about this rumour type thing is the unease it creates amongst the staff, people with families,mortgages etc. Whilst i fully understand there is a lot of jealousy aimed at JLR employees purely because of their salary etc, and a lot of people who can't wait to share on facebook or whatever platform anything negative about JLR. It is not a JLR's employees fault they earn more money than them.

Anyhow i hope the brief says the return to work/production is 7th rather than the 2nd January.

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I don't know of a single person who is jealous of JLR staff because of their salary????

What I do know is that they earn it. Not everyone's cup of tea is the car production line. A lot of folk enjoy their jobs and are content to earn less.

JLR staff get stung to shit with fixed holidays as prices triple those weeks.

I have said for a while that JLR is in trouble and you have said that it isn't. We shall see...

Congratulations on your new mega bucks job and becoming a paper millionaire. Your wife, family, friends all must be so proud of you and aspire to be like you. What a fantastic person you are! 

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31 minutes ago, Locke said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46810473

Ouch. I knew it was just a matter of time.

Hopefully the majority of these job losses will be people who want to go.

Curious as to what will happen at Wolverhampton engine plant. Engines are also produced there for Toyota and Honda.

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1 hour ago, The Realist said:

Curious as to what will happen at Wolverhampton engine plant. Engines are also produced there for Toyota and Honda.

It is pretty obvious that JLR will need less engines soon.

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On 10/01/2019 at 08:56, Locke said:

It is pretty obvious that JLR will need less engines soon.

As will Toyota and Honda,among'st others. Now i know you love any reason to have a cheap dig at JLR, even tho i don't work there anymore, I personally have deep felt sympathy for anybody affected, whether it be agency employees,or those other none JLR employees who manufacture the parts, they will feel the knock on effects. Just hope Jeremy Hunt sleeps soundly tonight. The cnut should be jailed for the thing's he signed off. He is the sole root cause of the problem. On the bright side, Germany is officially in recession.

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29 minutes ago, The Realist said:

As will Toyota and Honda,among'st others. Now i know you love any reason to have a cheap dig at JLR, even tho i don't work there anymore, I personally have deep felt sympathy for anybody affected, whether it be agency employees,or those other none JLR employees who manufacture the parts, they will feel the knock on effects. Just hope Jeremy Hunt sleeps soundly tonight. The cnut should be jailed for the thing's he signed off. He is the sole root cause of the problem. On the bright side, Germany is officially in recession.

Poor management is the reason.

That is why all the ones going are office workers.

You jumped before you were pushed.

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10 minutes ago, Locke said:

Poor management is the reason.

That is why all the ones going are office workers.

You jumped before you were pushed.

You really are feckin clueless fella. Have you looked at car sales figures globally?? JLR are actually fairing better than most.

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2019/01/13/hundreds-jaguar-land-rovers-jobs-fall-senior-managers-engineers/amp/

I have heard they milked JLR.

Some of jumping ship before the axe.

Some already deserted the sinking ship.

A bit like the Titanic where the fat cats got in the life boats before women and children.

Hold them accountable! 

Launch a public enquiry.

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In my honest opinion the management structure could have been drastically cut even at the peak of JLR sales, particularly involving DHL, who do everything for JLR logistics wise. 1 manager and 1 team leader per 20 people FFS!

I seriously wish i could do an audit on DHL. IMO and i am pretty knowledgeable in this area, gross incompetence seems to be rewarded, and rewarded handsomely. Any JLR manager in a relatively decent position can easily get any nephew-niece or whatever, a well paid management job within DHL on the JLR contract, regardless on experience. I found it infuriating beyond belief, I have seen a 21 year old girl, who has never worked in a warehouse go into a FLM position at a sequencing centre, then have to have total training in everything, which she never grasped anyway. Feckin wrong. There are people time served loyal hard working and know the job, who get rejected in favour of people like her.

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4 minutes ago, The Realist said:

In my honest opinion the management structure could have been drastically cut even at the peak of JLR sales, particularly involving DHL, who do everything for JLR logistics wise. 1 manager and 1 team leader per 20 people FFS!

I seriously wish i could do an audit on DHL. IMO and i am pretty knowledgeable in this area, gross incompetence seems to be rewarded, and rewarded handsomely. Any JLR manager in a relatively decent position can easily get any nephew-niece or whatever, a well paid management job within DHL on the JLR contract, regardless on experience. I found it infuriating beyond belief, I have seen a 21 year old girl, who has never worked in a warehouse go into a FLM position at a sequencing centre, then have to have total training in everything, which she never grasped anyway. Feckin wrong. There are people time served loyal hard working and know the job, who get rejected in favour of people like her.

Unfortunately mate this happens in most factories. They are corrupt places.

My wife was trained at Sony. Such practices are not allowed there.

That is your finest post mate. Never a more true word spoken. Well, unless we get onto Rotherham! 

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1 hour ago, Locke said:

fortunaUnfortunately mate this happens in most factories. They are corrupt places.

My wife was trained at Sony. Such practices are not allowed there.

That is your finest post mate. Never a more true word spoken. Well, unless we get onto Rotherham! 

I can only post my honest observations and thought's fella. I can and have been at times the most blunt and ruthless bastard you could ever come across, tho only when it was required and justified. My new job is requiring the same just now, a bit of ruthlessness. I am following some incompetent management. when people are in a position of power, that they shouldn't be, they often appoint many people to take away that responsibility from them, thus being able to pass the buck, and save their own asses. That was never my culture, I believe in accountability, hold your hands up, when you fuck up, sadly not the modern way. as at JLR, we have too many chief's where i am now. Fortunately i am in a position to do something about it, Over the coming months many boring meeting's etc I will get my point across, get rid of the deadwood, I have already got rid of some things that are ooozing money. cut the crap and waste, give the shareholders a reason to smile, and most importantly of all, be able to offer the staff who are the backbone of any company a pay rise. Tho i have the degree, i started out as a picker and worked my way up, yeah i worked harder than those around me, went the extra mile got the rewards. I like to think years later i can recognize and reward people with the same work ethic,  rather than that incompetent 21 year old i mentioned earlier walking into a £30k+ a year job she has no right to have and defo has not earned the right to have it. Hey ho that's just my way of thinking tho.

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JLR announced 2 weeks ago, they are building FA3, at Solihull. also in my time there, they flooded the place with stock, before placing very small orders with European suppliers, who then started saying a good deal for Britain is a must. Me think's JLR have been playing it very clever indeed.

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31 minutes ago, boro_boy said:

On the daily.main saying they are going to be sold as they are struggling. 

https://mol.im/a/7014755

Don't understand how they can struggle when they sell so many of their over priced cars.

Poor management has a lot to do with it.

There is a worldwide slump on sales at minute though.

Hyundai and Kia seem to be doing ok though.

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