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7 hours ago, Normski said:

What a con

 

It's a joke isn't it.

Just read on the BBC that they are stopping the sale of gas boilers from 2025 FFS. Guess we will all need heat pumps which cost a fortune. 

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33 minutes ago, boro_boy said:

It's a joke isn't it.

Just read on the BBC that they are stopping the sale of gas boilers from 2025 FFS. Guess we will all need heat pumps which cost a fortune. 

Expect climate lockdowns in the future and also it will only be the rich who will fly around the world

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9615957/Banning-gas-boilers-2035-simply-not-going-happen.html

Shocker.

Where are we getting all this electricity from?

  1. Everyone will be charging their cars all day long
  2. All these electric heat pumps warming and cooling out houses

Its jut not going to work. If we get a power cut, we are fucked!

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52 minutes ago, boro_boy said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9615957/Banning-gas-boilers-2035-simply-not-going-happen.html

Shocker.

Where are we getting all this electricity from?

  1. Everyone will be charging their cars all day long
  2. All these electric heat pumps warming and cooling out houses

Its jut not going to work. If we get a power cut, we are fucked!

vanity posturing!

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-9625603/Satellites-underestimating-global-warming-40-years-scientists-warn.html

More fudging of the numbers going on. They now think satellites have been underestimating global warming for 40 years!!!

For fuck sake, I wish this twats would fuck off with their global warming hoax shite!

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15 minutes ago, boro_boy said:

They now think satellites have been underestimating global warming for 40 years!!!

the fucking satellites are part of their problem!....The cunts have been trying to blame shit on us but conveniently ignore the shite floating about in space that was sent by international institutions!

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20 minutes ago, boro_boy said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-9625603/Satellites-underestimating-global-warming-40-years-scientists-warn.html

More fudging of the numbers going on. They now think satellites have been underestimating global warming for 40 years!!!

For fuck sake, I wish this twats would fuck off with their global warming hoax shite!

Basically they are saying....THEY DON'T FUCKING KNOW'!!! And have a read of this (quote from the link)

'Nevertheless, our analysis reveals anomalous covariance behavior in several observational data sets and illustrates the diagnostic power of simultaneously considering multiple complementary variables,' the researchers wrote in the study's abstract.

Aye, every cunt should be able to understand that shite!!!! Fuck off you spunk stains!

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I know they say we should all drive electric cars but what about ships, when are they going to make them all electric, oh and the planes!! Ships and planes are damaging to the environment look:

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5 minutes ago, boro_boy said:

I know they say we should all drive electric cars but what about ships, when are they going to make them all electric, oh and the planes!! Ships and planes are damaging to the environment look:

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and the ones no cunt in the media or authority mentions....Space crafts!

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Just now, Harold said:

and the ones no cunt in the media or authority mentions....Space crafts!

All this eclectic this, electric that is going to overwhelm the national grid. They are going to be too expensive to purchase and what happens with all the toxic battery waste? Lorries which delivery food will past the cost onto the consumer so all in all everything will go up in price, so the government will be getting more money from VAT. Talking about VAT when is the temporary rise from 17.5 to 20% going to be put back to 17.5% :lol:

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3 hours ago, boro_boy said:

I know they say we should all drive electric cars but what about ships, when are they going to make them all electric, oh and the planes!! Ships and planes are damaging to the environment look:

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Big scam mate...in the future only the elites will travel the world

Pondlife like you n me will not

Wait til the real fun starts with climate lockdowns,as with covid it's all about one thing....control

 

 

Under a “climate lockdown,” governments would limit private-vehicle use, ban consumption of red meat, and impose extreme energy-saving measures,that means cutting your eletricity and gas, while fossil-fuel companies would have to stop drilling. To avoid such a scenario, we must overhaul our economic structures and do capitalism differently.

The climate crisis is also a public-health crisis. Global warming will cause drinking water to degrade and enable pollution-linked respiratory diseases to thrive. According to some projections, 3.5 billion people globally will live in unbearable heat by 2070.

https://www.wbcsd.org/Overview/Panorama/Articles/Avoiding-a-climate-lockdown

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1 minute ago, Normski said:

Big scam mate...in the future only the elites will travel the world

Pondlife like you n me will not

Wait til the real fun starts with climate lockdowns,as with covid it's all about one thing....control

 

 

Under a “climate lockdown,” governments would limit private-vehicle use, ban consumption of red meat, and impose extreme energy-saving measures,that means cutting your eletricity and gas, while fossil-fuel companies would have to stop drilling. To avoid such a scenario, we must overhaul our economic structures and do capitalism differently.

The climate crisis is also a public-health crisis. Global warming will cause drinking water to degrade and enable pollution-linked respiratory diseases to thrive. According to some projections, 3.5 billion people globally will live in unbearable heat by 2070.

https://www.wbcsd.org/Overview/Panorama/Articles/Avoiding-a-climate-lockdown

Surely if that was to happen, only allowing the elite to travel, the normal working class people (and there are a lot of us) would kick up a fuss and there would probably be a coup on the government or a civil war. I can't see this kind of thing happening as there would be too much uproar!

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21 minutes ago, boro_boy said:

Surely if that was to happen, only allowing the elite to travel, the normal working class people (and there are a lot of us) would kick up a fuss and there would probably be a coup on the government or a civil war. I can't see this kind of thing happening as there would be too much uproar!

Too many are brainwashed that the planet is at huge risk and will comply....simples

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23 minutes ago, Normski said:

Big scam mate...in the future only the elites will travel the world

Pondlife like you n me will not

Wait til the real fun starts with climate lockdowns,as with covid it's all about one thing....control

 

 

Under a “climate lockdown,” governments would limit private-vehicle use, ban consumption of red meat, and impose extreme energy-saving measures,that means cutting your eletricity and gas, while fossil-fuel companies would have to stop drilling. To avoid such a scenario, we must overhaul our economic structures and do capitalism differently.

The climate crisis is also a public-health crisis. Global warming will cause drinking water to degrade and enable pollution-linked respiratory diseases to thrive. According to some projections, 3.5 billion people globally will live in unbearable heat by 2070.

https://www.wbcsd.org/Overview/Panorama/Articles/Avoiding-a-climate-lockdown

An utter nonsense of an article.....as with many of these pathetic attempts at scare mongering the article falls flat very early doors....        In the near future, the world may need to resort to lockdowns again – this time to tackle a climate emergency.         .....Note the words 'In the near future'.....so precise eh ? How often have we heard shit like this ? And also & more importantly the word 'may', not WILL but may so it's only an opinion .The author Mariana Mazzucato is an Economist and NOT some so called climate change expert as the further you read into the article it has to do with economy. Actually Mariana enjoys the cold weather....here's a tweet by her from yesterday...After freezing cold 3 degree Celsius winter swimming in Ladies pond on London’s Hampstead Heath, I am relishing the 14 degree swims in June. And latest research says the cold is even great for dementia!

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An utter nonsense of an article.....as with many of these pathetic attempts at scare mongering the article falls flat very early doors....        In the near future, the world may need to resort to lockdowns again – this time to tackle a climate emergency.         .....Note the words 'In the near future'.....so precise eh ? How often have we heard shit like this ? And also & more importantly the word 'may', not WILL but may so it's only an opinion .The author Mariana Mazzucato is an Economist and NOT some so called climate change expert as the further you read into the article it has to do with economy. Actually Mariana enjoys the cold weather....here's a tweet by her from yesterday...After freezing cold 3 degree Celsius winter swimming in Ladies pond on London’s Hampstead Heath, I am relishing the 14 degree swims in June. And latest research says the cold is even great for dementia!

The governments all around the world are pushing like fuck for net zero carbon emissions......watch this space

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10 minutes ago, Normski said:

The governments all around the world are pushing like fuck for net zero carbon emissions......watch this space

They may be pushing but it aint going to happen as they desire........The average target date for this is simply a proposal.....2050 but nothing is guaranteed. A lot of bluster with no actual definitive determination.

Ambitious goals, but missing actions

The Paris Agreement’s formal goal is to stay “well below” 2 degrees of warming. That’s based on political negotiations and scientific research that models the increasingly harmful effects rising temperatures will have on today’s economies, agriculture and environment.

The sooner the world’s emissions trajectory starts downward, the smoother the transition will be.

The leaders of China, Japan and South Korea each announced goals in recent weeks for reaching net zero carbon emissions by mid-century. But the detailed plans for how they will get there are largely missing.

Chinese President Xi Jinping drew global praise when he announced in September that his country’s emissions – the highest in the world – would peak earlier than expected, before 2030, and that China would strive to be carbon neutral by 2060. How and whether that happens will depend heavily on the country’s next Five Year Plan, due in March. The leadership’s priorities include expanding clean energy, but right now, China is still the world’s largest coal user, and coal accounts for three-fifths of its energy supply.

South Korean President Moon Jae-in offered more detailed goals in November when he ordered government officials to develop a road map for transitioning to cleaner energy and carbon neutrality by 2050. He said his country would invest US$7 billion in green projects, launch a carbon tax to encourage companies to reduce their emissions, and stop financing overseas coal plants. But those ideas, too, fall short of carbon neutrality in an economy that relies on energy-intensive industries.

The European Union is farther ahead. It established a net zero objective some time ago along with scenarios for how to get there. This summer, the EU put climate-friendly projects at the heart of its pandemic recovery strategy. Just before the summit, EU leaders also agreed to increase the union’s short-term goal to cut emissions 55% by 2030, up from 40%. EU member states are now expected to develop long-term strategies for 2050 and revise their national energy and climate plans through 2030.

The U.K. has announced a new 68% emissions reduction target for 2030. Meeting this target will require the U.K. to double its efforts compared to the last three decades.

The big picture

Overall, the current “nationally determined contributions” – the plans that countries submit to the U.N. spelling out how they will meet the Paris Agreement – fall far short. A five-fold acceleration in emissions reductions is needed to come close.

Just days before the Ambitions Summit, only 13 countries had submitted new targets, and seven had announced they would not update their targets or resubmitted old targets. However, nearly half of high-emitting countries have indicated they will raise their mitigation ambitions by the end of next year.

Twenty-one states and regions have set long-term targets to reduce their emissions by 75%-90%, but how these will be met is not clear, a recent analysis found. Most pledges by cities are similarly aspirational.

Ramping up fast

Even if established clean technologies like renewable energy are at the core of the transition, the pace of change required to meet the Paris goals remains daunting. Socioeconomic issues will also have to be put front and center.

Net-zero solutions are technically conceivable for a range of energy-intensive industries, agriculture and transport methods, but the speed and scale at which they would have to ramp up to meet a 2050 deadline is formidable.

Our analysis found the deployment of renewable power would need to accelerate two- to three-fold. Global renewable energy use would need to go from around 20% of energy today to 65% by 2050, and from 28% to 85% of the power sector. Electric vehicle use would have to skyrocket, from less than 10 million EVs today to more than 1.5 billion by 2050.

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Filling in the gaps

To finance these transformations, investors need to be confident that the world is committed to a cleaner future. Perceived risk will drive up costs, and uncertain or delayed government action are big risks. International financial organizations, along with green banks and development banks, have an important role to play in encouraging private investment.

Moving from a focus on high-level goals to detailed pathways will help.

The global climate talks can continue to help by focusing on the specifics of the national commitments, ensuring they are detailed, well-designed and budgeted, and updated regularly.

The international community will also need to support countries that need assistance. Climate change is not the primary priority for most jurisdictions – though it is an existential crisis for some, including some small island states. That needs to be acknowledged and built in to the goals and planning.

 

Also.....

 

 IEA projects sales of traditional gasoline- and diesel-powered cars will need to cease by 2035, and that coal plants without carbon capture will need to close by 2040. Eighty-five percent of all homes will have to be zero carbon by 2050, with electric heat pumps supplying around half of heating demand.

Greening the industrial sector may be even harder.

IEA estimates the world will need to install 10 industrial plants with carbon capture, three plants fueled by hydrogen and 2 GW of hydrogen electrolysis capacity—that is, facilities capable of producing hydrogen with clean electricity—every month between 2030 and 2050. By comparison, China built an average of 12 industrial facilities a month between 2000 and 2015, the agency noted.

“The report makes it clear that the window to get to net-zero emissions by 2050 is narrow, but—and this important—still achievable,” said Costa Samaras, a professor who studies energy systems at Carnegie Mellon University. “What the IEA is telling us here: In order to achieve our climate goals we need to deploy, deploy, deploy.”

Whether the world is up for the deployment challenge is an open question. A wave of countries pledged to go net zero in the last year. Those commitments now cover 70% of global emissions, and yet they still fall short of what is needed to limit warming to 2 C by 2100, IEA said.

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The agency found that even if the pledges made were successfully implemented, it would leave roughly 22 billion metric tons of CO2 emissions in 2050, resulting in a temperature rise of roughly 2.1 C. Global emissions from fossil fuels were 34 billion metric tons in 2020.

“While it’s useful to have this scenario on how we could reach a 1.5 C target, it is still important to emphasize that it is going to be a huge lift and will require much more political will starting tomorrow by countries all around the world than has been evidenced to date,” said Zeke Hausfather, a climate scientist who leads the climate and energy program at the Breakthrough Institute.

 

As I said.....all bluster and very little substance.

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