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4 hours ago, boro_boy said:

Surely if that was to happen, only allowing the elite to travel, the normal working class people (and there are a lot of us) would kick up a fuss and there would probably be a coup on the government or a civil war. I can't see this kind of thing happening as there would be too much uproar!

i really hope im alive to see that

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4 hours ago, Harold said:

They may be pushing but it aint going to happen as they desire........The average target date for this is simply a proposal.....2050 but nothing is guaranteed. A lot of bluster with no actual definitive determination.

Ambitious goals, but missing actions

The Paris Agreement’s formal goal is to stay “well below” 2 degrees of warming. That’s based on political negotiations and scientific research that models the increasingly harmful effects rising temperatures will have on today’s economies, agriculture and environment.

The sooner the world’s emissions trajectory starts downward, the smoother the transition will be.

The leaders of China, Japan and South Korea each announced goals in recent weeks for reaching net zero carbon emissions by mid-century. But the detailed plans for how they will get there are largely missing.

Chinese President Xi Jinping drew global praise when he announced in September that his country’s emissions – the highest in the world – would peak earlier than expected, before 2030, and that China would strive to be carbon neutral by 2060. How and whether that happens will depend heavily on the country’s next Five Year Plan, due in March. The leadership’s priorities include expanding clean energy, but right now, China is still the world’s largest coal user, and coal accounts for three-fifths of its energy supply.

South Korean President Moon Jae-in offered more detailed goals in November when he ordered government officials to develop a road map for transitioning to cleaner energy and carbon neutrality by 2050. He said his country would invest US$7 billion in green projects, launch a carbon tax to encourage companies to reduce their emissions, and stop financing overseas coal plants. But those ideas, too, fall short of carbon neutrality in an economy that relies on energy-intensive industries.

The European Union is farther ahead. It established a net zero objective some time ago along with scenarios for how to get there. This summer, the EU put climate-friendly projects at the heart of its pandemic recovery strategy. Just before the summit, EU leaders also agreed to increase the union’s short-term goal to cut emissions 55% by 2030, up from 40%. EU member states are now expected to develop long-term strategies for 2050 and revise their national energy and climate plans through 2030.

The U.K. has announced a new 68% emissions reduction target for 2030. Meeting this target will require the U.K. to double its efforts compared to the last three decades.

The big picture

Overall, the current “nationally determined contributions” – the plans that countries submit to the U.N. spelling out how they will meet the Paris Agreement – fall far short. A five-fold acceleration in emissions reductions is needed to come close.

Just days before the Ambitions Summit, only 13 countries had submitted new targets, and seven had announced they would not update their targets or resubmitted old targets. However, nearly half of high-emitting countries have indicated they will raise their mitigation ambitions by the end of next year.

Twenty-one states and regions have set long-term targets to reduce their emissions by 75%-90%, but how these will be met is not clear, a recent analysis found. Most pledges by cities are similarly aspirational.

Ramping up fast

Even if established clean technologies like renewable energy are at the core of the transition, the pace of change required to meet the Paris goals remains daunting. Socioeconomic issues will also have to be put front and center.

Net-zero solutions are technically conceivable for a range of energy-intensive industries, agriculture and transport methods, but the speed and scale at which they would have to ramp up to meet a 2050 deadline is formidable.

Our analysis found the deployment of renewable power would need to accelerate two- to three-fold. Global renewable energy use would need to go from around 20% of energy today to 65% by 2050, and from 28% to 85% of the power sector. Electric vehicle use would have to skyrocket, from less than 10 million EVs today to more than 1.5 billion by 2050.

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Filling in the gaps

To finance these transformations, investors need to be confident that the world is committed to a cleaner future. Perceived risk will drive up costs, and uncertain or delayed government action are big risks. International financial organizations, along with green banks and development banks, have an important role to play in encouraging private investment.

Moving from a focus on high-level goals to detailed pathways will help.

The global climate talks can continue to help by focusing on the specifics of the national commitments, ensuring they are detailed, well-designed and budgeted, and updated regularly.

The international community will also need to support countries that need assistance. Climate change is not the primary priority for most jurisdictions – though it is an existential crisis for some, including some small island states. That needs to be acknowledged and built in to the goals and planning.

 

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 IEA projects sales of traditional gasoline- and diesel-powered cars will need to cease by 2035, and that coal plants without carbon capture will need to close by 2040. Eighty-five percent of all homes will have to be zero carbon by 2050, with electric heat pumps supplying around half of heating demand.

Greening the industrial sector may be even harder.

IEA estimates the world will need to install 10 industrial plants with carbon capture, three plants fueled by hydrogen and 2 GW of hydrogen electrolysis capacity—that is, facilities capable of producing hydrogen with clean electricity—every month between 2030 and 2050. By comparison, China built an average of 12 industrial facilities a month between 2000 and 2015, the agency noted.

“The report makes it clear that the window to get to net-zero emissions by 2050 is narrow, but—and this important—still achievable,” said Costa Samaras, a professor who studies energy systems at Carnegie Mellon University. “What the IEA is telling us here: In order to achieve our climate goals we need to deploy, deploy, deploy.”

Whether the world is up for the deployment challenge is an open question. A wave of countries pledged to go net zero in the last year. Those commitments now cover 70% of global emissions, and yet they still fall short of what is needed to limit warming to 2 C by 2100, IEA said.

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The agency found that even if the pledges made were successfully implemented, it would leave roughly 22 billion metric tons of CO2 emissions in 2050, resulting in a temperature rise of roughly 2.1 C. Global emissions from fossil fuels were 34 billion metric tons in 2020.

“While it’s useful to have this scenario on how we could reach a 1.5 C target, it is still important to emphasize that it is going to be a huge lift and will require much more political will starting tomorrow by countries all around the world than has been evidenced to date,” said Zeke Hausfather, a climate scientist who leads the climate and energy program at the Breakthrough Institute.

 

As I said.....all bluster and very little substance.

Oh i agree....it's impossible....just like they want zero covid....but it's what they will do to even try to get near their impossible goal is the question!

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Thunberg calls out climate impact of fashion brands in Vogue interview

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Environmentalist Greta Thunberg called for a "system change" in the fashion industry

 

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Swedish climate activist Greta Thunberg has condemned the fashion industry over its "huge" contribution to climate change, in a magazine interview.

Ms Thunberg told Vogue Scandinavia that fashion brands needed to take responsibility for the environmental impact of their products.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-58145465

 

 

 

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14 hours ago, sployal said:

Thunberg calls out climate impact of fashion brands in Vogue interview

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Environmentalist Greta Thunberg called for a "system change" in the fashion industry

 

image.thumb.png.bcb46790e0ce3e967db1fdcf4bb70b42.png

Swedish climate activist Greta Thunberg has condemned the fashion industry over its "huge" contribution to climate change, in a magazine interview.

Ms Thunberg told Vogue Scandinavia that fashion brands needed to take responsibility for the environmental impact of their products.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-58145465

 

 

 

I don't give a fuck what she says.

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If they were so concerned about climate change and having ultra low emission zones surely they would ban cars completely rather than allow the rich to pay the fees to drive in these zones?

Also see happy got a private jet to fly hundreds of miles so he could play polo. Fucking hypocrite. 

Also the London mayor Cunt Khan drove 2 miles to walk his dogs in a park, along with another 2 cars for security when there is a park near to his home. Fucking hypocrite. 

Cunts

 

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Just now, boro_boy said:

If they were so concerned about climate change and having ultra low emission zones surely they would ban cars completely rather than allow the rich to pay the fees to drive in these zones?

Also see happy got a private jet to fly hundreds of miles so he could play polo. Fucking hypocrite. 

Also the London mayor Cunt Khan drove 2 miles to walk his dogs in a park, along with another 2 cars for security when there is a park near to his home. Fucking hypocrite. 

Cunts

 

100% mate.....as usual...one rule for them and another for us plebs! Another instance which gives falsehood to the claims of man made climate change...They are LYING CUNTS mate! Biggest con in the history of mankind....

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3 minutes ago, boro_boy said:

The New York floods have been claimed on climate change 😂🤣😂🤣

any shit that happens regards weather is put down as climate change by the eco zealots....cunts want us living in caves and wearing sandals and eating grass....

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1 hour ago, Harold said:

any shit that happens regards weather is put down as climate change by the eco zealots....cunts want us living in caves and wearing sandals and eating grass....

Well thats not going to happen, until Electric cars "which are being forced on us" become as affordable as a diesel and with the same fuel range. Until then, i'm sticking to my Dirty Diesel!

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14 minutes ago, boro_boy said:

Well thats not going to happen, until Electric cars "which are being forced on us" become as affordable as a diesel and with the same fuel range. Until then, i'm sticking to my Dirty Diesel!

For the moment there is no electric car which can run up to 250 miles without needing a battery recharge which takes an average 40 to 60 mns if not longer, most of them run a little over 125 miles.

The battery takes up more space than your actual engine and recycling will be a major problem.

Well that's progress, can't beat it🤣

 

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