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17 minutes ago, sployal said:

For the moment there is no electric car which can run up to 250 miles without needing a battery recharge which takes an average 40 to 60 mns if not longer, most of them run a little over 125 miles.

The battery takes up more space than your actual engine and recycling will be a major problem.

Well that's progress, can't beat it🤣

 

Was there not a problem of some sort regards having to mine for lithium for the batteries SP ?

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6 minutes ago, Harold said:

Was there not a problem of some sort regards having to mine for lithium for the batteries SP ?

Afghanistan: Taliban to reap $1 trillion mineral wealth.

To date, the Taliban have profited from the opium and heroin trade. Now the militant group effectively rules a country with valuable resources that China needs to grow its economy.

The Taliban have been handed a huge financial and geopolitical edge in relations with the world's biggest powers as the militant group seizes control of Afghanistan for a second time.

In 2010, a report by US military experts and geologists estimated that Afghanistan, one of the world's poorest countries, was sitting on nearly $1 trillion (€850 billion) in mineral wealth, thanks to huge iron, copper, lithium, cobalt and rare-earth deposits.

In the subsequent decade, most of those resources remained untouched due to ongoing violence in the country. Meanwhile, the value of many of those minerals has skyrocketed, sparked by the global transition to green energy. A follow-up report by the Afghan government in 2017 estimated that Kabul's new mineral wealth may be as high as $3 trillion, including fossil fuels.

Lithium, which is used in batteries for electric cars, smartphones and laptops, is facing unprecedented demand, with annual growth of 20% compared to just 5-6% a few years ago. The Pentagon memo called Afghanistan the Saudi Arabia of lithium and projected that the country's lithium deposits could equal Bolivia's — one of the world's largest.

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Just now, UNIQUE said:

yep. the governments need proof that they are melting so they can tax people more money that will stop them from melting. 

Not sure about the taxation angle, but if it's happening then the populace need to see evidence.

Don't get me wrong, I am not a greenie, but if there is a problem then the evidence had to be revealed.

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4 minutes ago, Hairy Scot said:

Not sure about the taxation angle, but if it's happening then the populace need to see evidence.

Don't get me wrong, I am not a greenie, but if there is a problem then the evidence had to be revealed.

yes there is defo a problem but governments making us pay money will not fix it 😄

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Just now, Hairy Scot said:

From where do you think governments get money?

thats not my point. my point is paying money to the government to drive in these green zone will do nothing to stop the problem. the government are just using the problem as a way to tax people even more. do you think the congeston charge in london has reduced the amount of cars in london. like fuck has it. 

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1 hour ago, UNIQUE said:

thats not my point. my point is paying money to the government to drive in these green zone will do nothing to stop the problem. the government are just using the problem as a way to tax people even more. do you think the congeston charge in london has reduced the amount of cars in london. like fuck has it. 

OK, that's very much a localised point of view of a global problem.

Something has to be done, but what?

You'd think with all the brilliant minds at our disposal there could be the chance of an answer.

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1 minute ago, Harold said:

I've said for years....Global Warming/Climate change is one of the, if not thee, biggest cons known to mankind. It has ALL to do with money imo Hairy. Look at every so called green initiative...who pays...us the mugs....everything about it comes at a huge financial cost to the general public.

Up to a point I agree.
However, there can be no doubt that changes are occurring.
They may not have a great impact in the short term, but long term?
As I said earlier, I am not a greenie, but given the geological history of the planet there will be an apocalyptic event regardless of what we do.
Will our actions make a difference?

However, if spending a few bucks makes people feel better, then what's the harm?

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2 minutes ago, Hairy Scot said:

However, there can be no doubt that changes are occurring.

yep.....but it is claimed by the green zealots that it is ALL down to man made actions.

3 minutes ago, Hairy Scot said:

Will our actions make a difference?

nobody knows.

3 minutes ago, Hairy Scot said:

However, if spending a few bucks makes people feel better, then what's the harm?

because it includes those who disagree with their obsession and those who object to financing the big players!

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4 minutes ago, Harold said:

yep.....but it is claimed by the green zealots that it is ALL down to man made actions.

As I said, I am not a greenie, I think it is a natural cycle.

nobody knows.

agreed

because it includes those who disagree with their obsession and those who object to financing the big players!

so what's new? that's par for the course with most government spending

 

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