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Starting a thread regards this as it is now gaining momentum across MSM....Please keep all comments about this subject in here please.

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https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/celtic-board-must-apologise-boys-16165455

Celtic board must apologise for Boys Club abuse and demand independent inquiry - Gordon Waddell

 

It's time that fucking cesspool in the east end of Glasgow was closed down and shipped off to Dublin 

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20 minutes ago, Harold said:

Starting a thread regards this as it is now gaining momentum across MSM....Please keep all comments about this subject in here please.

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https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/celtic-board-must-apologise-boys-16165455

Celtic board must apologise for Boys Club abuse and demand independent inquiry - Gordon Waddell

 

It's time that fucking cesspool in the east end of Glasgow was closed down and shipped off to Dublin 

Dublin doesn't deserve them, just close it down :angry:

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5 minutes ago, Normski said:

 

Norn, I don't know how much you know about this but I've been reading a lot about it recently and it is fucking shocking. Kelly and McGinn would be well aware as would their most famous manager.

If you have the time take a butchers at this. Lengthy but interesting.

Article from the FREELIBRARY outlining some of the shameful cover up that took place. Strange how some from East End still pretend it was isolated to Torbett and no-one knew. How many young players contacted the hotline and were complaints taken to the police? Surely the crime should have been reported to the police in USA immediately and they should have been allowed to investigate. Why did the parents not want to press charges, were they pressurised, did they receive payment ? Only they know.


Shameful airport pact haunts us after 5 years; EXCLUSIVE]: Truth behind the cover-up.The secret deal which protected a sex pervert for five years was struck in an American airport cafe.

Hours before Celtic Boys' Club were due to fly home, five men sat around a table at bustling Boston airport.

There they sealed the shameful pact that has haunted them since.

Frank Cairney - the man who WAS Celtic Boys' Club - agreed to resign and a dingy chapter in Celtic's history was born.

A young player had claimed he had been touched sexually by Cairney while in bed.

Now the other four men who were part of that airport deal, former chairman Jim McNally and officials Bill Gilfillan, John Gallacher and Willie Hampson, have decided to speak about it for the first time.

They talked to the Daily Record which last week lifted the lid off the sex abuse scandal at the boys club.

Jim McNally, speaking for all four, said: "Apart from sworn statements to Celtic and the police, none of us has ever spoken about what happened.

"It has been painful and has taken a great toll on all of our lives."

Players had been staying in the homes of ex-pat Celtic fans in Kearney, New Jersey, in 1991 for a showpiece tournament. Two were living with exiled Scot, Pat Brannigan.

Jim said: "Pat Brannigan told me that a boy had made a serious allegation against Frank Cairney. I interviewed the boy after Pat Brannigan came for me very early in the morning.

"Pat and his wife Diane were there. I asked a second boy who was also staying at Pat's house to leave the room.
"The first lad was very distraught. He repeated the allegation of a sexual nature against Frank Cairney.

"He said it happened in Pat Brannigan's basement where the boys were sleeping.

"Frank had been staying at a hotel nearby. But it wouldn't have been unusual for him to be in the house because he always went around to where the boys were staying, to make sure they were all right.

"Initially I found the whole thing hard to believe. I had never experienced anything like that before in my life.

"I honestly thought and hoped it was horseplay that had got out of hand a wee bit. Immediately I talked to the other three officials.

"I told them what had happened. We were visiting a theme park that day and I got the senior players together and told them what had happened. They already knew.

"I asked them if they would keep their eye on this lad until we got things sorted out."

He continued: "We decided that we would talk to Frank Cairney and we did. He very forcibly, strenuously denied the allegation. He was very angry. He said nothing happened.

"While we were talking about it, Pat Brannigan arrived and said he had spoken to his lawyer and the police.

"I also spoke to Pat's lawyer about the procedure and what we would do.

"I asked him what would happen if the boy made a formal complaint. And what he told me was the real shocker of the whole thing.

"He said that Frank Cairney would be charged and that the boy, and the other boy who was staying in the house, would be put in protective custody."

Distraught Jim and the officials were terrified to bring in police in case the boys were taken away from them.

He said:"I was absolutely shattered about that. There was no way I could have landed at Glasgow Airport and told two sets of parents that their boys weren't there.

"After that meeting I immediately contacted Celtic, but it was the Glasgow Fair and I had a terrible job trying to get a hold of people.

"I tried Jack McGinn, Jimmy Farrell (Celtic directors), but could not get them. I then phoned Sean McMullen and Bobby Creilly, two other boys' club officials.

"I told them what had happened and I told them of my fear that the boys would be taken into protective custody and that this wasn't for me or even the boy to decide what they should do. I felt his parents should make that decision.
"This was the Thursday and we were due home on the Sunday.

"We also booked three tickets to be held just in case the boy wanted home early.

"I spoke to the lad at regular intervals and he opted to stay at Brannigan's. He seemed to be coping.

"He continued to play in the tournament. I've always admired the boy and how he coped with all of this.

"He was only 16 at the time. He actually started officially playing for Celtic on the Monday after he returned home."

Jim McNally didn't call in the police, but Pat Brannigan may have brought them in. Jim said: "If the police interviewed the boy I wasn't aware of it. I think Pat Brannigan felt we weren't handling it correctly. But the reason we handled it the way we did was because I didn't believe it was up to me to decide what to do.

"Eventually there was a meeting with the boy's parents which Creilly and McMullen had been trying to arrange .

"We left Kennedy airport, New York, on Sunday, but still there was no word. We stopped over at Boston and this is where it all happened.

"There was a message at Boston for me to phone home.

"I was told the meeting had concluded and the outcome was that the boy's parents were quite happy to leave the matter in Celtic's hands, provided Frank Cairney resigned from the boys' club on returning.

"Myself, Willie Hampson, Bill Gilfillan and John Gallacher, the four officials, met in the cafe at Boston airport and we told Frank Cairney what we had been advised.

"He agreed to resign when he went home. We arrived at Glasgow and went straight to the park.

"Jack McGinn organised a meeting at 11am with Frank Cairney and a meeting with me at 2pm.

"At that meeting, he gave me a copy of Frank Cairney's resignation which said he had resigned because he had got promotion in his company and the pressure of work.

"We were still concerned that we weren't quite covered, so we individually consulted lawyers and collectively spoke to a QC for advice.

"He asked if we could produce any more boys who could quote incidents from anywhere at any time. But we knew we couldn't do that."

The deal they had to be part of has left them sad, jaundiced men. All have since left Celtic Boys' Club.

Jim added: "The boy told me what happened. I cannot say what happened.

"But the parents wanted the boy to get on with his career and get on with his life, once they had been given assurances he was coping."

He added: "We were never sworn to secrecy. The boy asked us not to talk about it and we respected his wishes."

Club hotline for victims

Celtic last night set up a counselling service to provide support for families struggling to cope with the trauma of the Boys' Club revelations.

Announcing the hotline, chairman Fergus McCann said: "Celtic Football Club has been receiving many calls from people and families in distress over the alleged incidents.

"In addition to asking people to report allegations to the police, it is obvious many need advice of trained specialists."

The support and advice Hotline opens today and will run for a week between noon and midnight. It is costing Celtic pounds 5000.

McCann also offered his support to current officials of the Boys Club. He added: "It is a great pity their good work should be tarnished by these alleged incidents."

Boys' Club chairman Tony McGuinness said: "The hotline is a very welcome gesture."

Lorraine Rochford of Network Scotland, who have selected the specialists, added: "Celtic Football Club have to be commended for providing this service."

HOW WE EXPOSED SCANDAL

The Daily Record exclusively revealed the Celtic Boys' Club sex abuse scandal a week ago.

In a series of exclusive stories, Scotland's No 1 newspaper unmasked Jim Torbett and Frank Cairney.

We exposed how frightened young players were fondled by the club bosses they trusted.

We revealed how Cairney lied to a local newspaper with claims he didn't know one of his victims.

And we told how pervert Torbett was booted out of the club - only to be allowed to return years later.

After the Record's sensational reports, Torbett was again kicked out by the boys' club.

And detectives have confirmed that they plan to quiz the wealthy businessman

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7 minutes ago, Normski said:

It is shameful and no doubt big Jock knew,didn't he suddenly kick Torbett out of the club then invited him back 3 years later?

it's in this video

 

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6 minutes ago, Normski said:

It is shameful and no doubt big Jock knew,didn't he suddenly kick Torbett out of the club then invited him back 3 years later?

Jock Stein knew but in the words of abuse victim John McCluskey who was the brother of George and Pat..'Why do they keep having a go at Big Jock? He was the only one who did anything'.

Torbett was not brought back to the club until after Stein had been let go by the club. It was Tommy Burns that was behind the club bringing back the Paedo. It was also Tommy Burns that publicly defended Frank Cairney and attacked those who had reported him. This was during the previous investigation into Cairney. 

Fergus McCann forced Burns into a humiliating climb down and forced him to retract his defence of the Paedo.

I ll post more later but i couldn't let that go on Stein as he is guilty of not reporting the beasts but at least he took some action and got them out the club. Not enough but more than any of the others did

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1 minute ago, No.8 said:

Jock Stein knew but in the words of abuse victim John McCluskey who was the brother of George and Pat..'Why do they keep having a go at Big Jock? He was the only one who did anything'.

Torbett was not brought back to the club until after Stein had been let go by the club. It was Tommy Burns that was behind the club bringing back the Paedo. It was also Tommy Burns that publicly defended Frank Cairney and attacked those who had reported him. This was during the previous investigation into Cairney. 

Fergus McCann forced Burns into a humiliating climb down and forced him to retract his defence of the Paedo.

I ll post more later but i couldn't let that go on Stein as he is guilty of not reporting the beasts but at least he took some action and got them out the club. Not enough but more than any of the others did

He still knew Trav and covered it up

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2 minutes ago, No.8 said:

he is guilty of not reporting the beasts but at least he took some action and got them out the club. Not enough but more than any of the others did

Wonder why he allowed himself to be photographed presenting that award ? to Torbett after he got rid of him ?

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Just now, Harold said:

Wonder why he allowed himself to be photographed presenting that award ? to Torbett after he got rid of him ?

And praising him

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3 minutes ago, No.8 said:

Stein is also photographed with Jimmy Saville and a Roman Catholic priest handing out some awards. The Priest in question was also done with abusing children and everyone knows about Saville. The Preist name is Father O'Connell. If you google Stein and Saville photo it is the first to come up. Sorry cant copy and paste.

Image result for jock stein jimmy saville photo

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This shows the kind of person that the SNP believe to be fit for office. A piece of filth and the Scottish public are supposed to believe that that excuse for a political party has their interest at heart ? Cunts to a man/woman!

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/4262415/snp-nats-john-mason-celtic-boys-club-sex-abuse-rangers-tax-dodge/

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3 minutes ago, Harold said:

This shows the kind of person that the SNP believe to be fit for office. A piece of filth and the Scottish public are supposed to believe that that excuse for a political party has their interest at heart ? Cunts to a man/woman!

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/4262415/snp-nats-john-mason-celtic-boys-club-sex-abuse-rangers-tax-dodge/

Disturbing

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11 minutes ago, Hairy Scot said:

Fuck all to do with the SNP mate.

I very much doubt that all members of that party share that cunt's view.

He's obviously a Dhim who sneaked in thanks to the good people of Shettleston.

Nothing to do with SNP ? He is an SMP. This is his response to a constituent asking for a public enquiry into the scandal because the SNP as our governing body have uttered not a word about this. He also says in the article...

But he added that it was a matter of “judgement” as to whether to hold probes into Celtic or Rangers “when they do something wrong”.

A matter of judgement ? God help us!

Have you read about Susan's Aitken's (SNP leader of Glasgow City council)  remarks about Frank McAveety.....It is all to do with SNP Hairy.

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23 hours ago, Normski said:

It is shameful and no doubt big Jock knew,didn't he suddenly kick Torbett out of the club then invited him back 3 years later?

Too right he knew...

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1 hour ago, Hairy Scot said:

I'm not defending the SNP or any of its members but I don't for one minute believe that the party is responsible for all the evil that occurs or has occurred in Scotland.

Hairy I have never said they are responsible...we all know who is.....but their silence on this monstrosity is deafening mate.

1 hour ago, Hairy Scot said:

Is the SNP full of left footers who blindly accept that Celtic FC can do no wrong?

There are quite a few. The aforementioned Susan Aitken....the leader of GCC.

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The SNP are absolutely full of left footers and they have a very strong allegiance to the Irish Republican movement both in Scotland and Ireland.

Only last week we had one of them praising the Easter Rising.

James Dornan has been pictured at an Irish Republican event.

They held one of their press conferences in the Old Govan Arms which is an Irish Republican bar that is used for fund raising for Dissident Republicans. In fact there is Youtube footage from that pub of Rangers fans being attacked after and Old Firm game and supporters being grabbed out of a minibus.

The SNP are scum! Maybe things were different back in the day Hairy but they hate us with a passion. 

The first minister tweeted congratulations to Hibs on winning the Scottish Cup literally seconds after the final whistle. She never tweeted any condemnation of the Hibs support attacking Rangers players / supporters for 3 or 4 days and only after Rangers Football Club had shamed her into it. Ibrox Stadium is within her constituency FFS!!

It is the SNP that stopped Rangers Fanzone even though Glasgow Life had backed the idea. 

 

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Celtic Football Club made Celtic Boys Club change their name recently to ........ St Patricks Boys Club. How very Celtic :allo-unamused:

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When it comes to clubs being punished for the indiscretions of those running the club it is usual for football supporters to feel a degree of sympathy for the supporters of that club. If Celtic are hammered by the authorities (aye right!!) i will have little sympathy for the Celtic support who have been complicit in the cover up. 

Just a couple of examples..

The online Sun newspaper ran with a story from the late Sean Fallon. In the story Fallon is directly quoted as saying...'It is nonsense to say he (Stein) did nothing. As soon as he heard the rumours he kicked him (Torbett) out the club'...The Celtic supporters association threatened the Sun with a boycott if they didn't edit the DIRECT QUOTE!! The Sun , for reasons known only to them, changed the story and i have never bought the paper since. TBF i don't buy any newspapers now or click on any links. 

The Daily Record and Sunday Mail are running these stories and the Gordon Wadell piece at the weekend was fairly accurate and hard hitting leaving Celtic little wiggle room. What do the Celtic support do when they read this? Ask searching questions? Demand the club tell the truth? Ask for a public enquiry? Nope they threaten to boycott the Daily Record!!

As i said i don't read these rags but i have seen some of the recent pieces on other forums. My question to the editors of these Rags is why now? Why wait all these years? Why have they not been at the front leading the campaign for the victims of this dreadful scandal? I suspect Celtic have been threatening legal action but i want the Rags to answer this very pertinent point as it will put this Celtic board in the dock alongside all their predecessors with the exception of Fergus McCann 

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1 hour ago, No.8 said:

My question to the editors of these Rags is why now? Why wait all these years? Why have they not been at the front leading the campaign for the victims of this dreadful scandal?

Just a wee thought on this Trav. It 'may be' due to the fact that as social media has become a lot more accessible & forceful over the years they (papers) feel that they now have no choice but to publicise articles/reports giving the impression that they are at the forefront whereas in the past the mantra 'let's not open a can of worms' would allow them to sit on certain topics. They know now that huge criticism is being levelled against them and of course 'Profit is King!

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2 hours ago, Harold said:

Just a wee thought on this Trav. It 'may be' due to the fact that as social media has become a lot more accessible & forceful over the years they (papers) feel that they now have no choice but to publicise articles/reports giving the impression that they are at the forefront whereas in the past the mantra 'let's not open a can of worms' would allow them to sit on certain topics. They know now that huge criticism is being levelled against them and of course 'Profit is King!

Or it could be a very well known player is about to make public that he was abused and they knew all along.

Could be that NDAs being null and void mean more of the victims will be willing to speak out.

Of course yours is as valid a reason as any but the question should be asked...Why Now?

I am confident that this is the beginning of the end for the victims and it is only a matter of time before they get their apology. It is only a matter of time before those responsible are held to account.

Now it is finally being discussed it is up to the authorities to find out the truth behind it all.

I know this may not be a popular view but i believe Rangers Football Club should be asking why this has allowed to fester for so long with NO enquiry by the footballing authorities!! Believe me those bastards in the East End did everything they could to kill off our great club so now i have no problem outing them and their sordid history. Remember this is the club that put pressure on the SFA/ SPL in 2008 to rob of us of any chance of winning UEFA Cup and League. Remember the planned Japan trip they simply couldn't cancel? 

Celtic have kept this quiet and have benefited from huge sponsorship deals with various world famous brands throughout the years. The monies gained from sponsorship and advertising has allowed them to pay players fees and wages. How many of these brands would have sponsored a football club that had actively protected a Paedophile ring? Had knowingly allowed them to keep on abusing children as they were producing talent for their club. 

It is not going away now and it will be interesting to see how long the SNP can let it go before they simply have to order an enquiry. Let us hope that the enquiry is completely independent 

33 minutes ago, Roger said:

What kind of sick mind tries to cover stuff like this up?

Why should Celtic FC be immune from name and shame? 

Celtic minded 

They shouldn't and they wont be

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23 hours ago, No.8 said:

Celtic Football Club made Celtic Boys Club change their name recently to ........ St Patricks Boys Club. How very Celtic :allo-unamused:

Scum trying to brush it under the carpet :facepalm-hand-gesture-smiley-emoticon:

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