Separate Entity FC...Celtic Boys Club Scandal

[The Realist 844]

1 minute ago, Harold said:

Also to give the Ins company access to ALL that Celtic hold on this before ANY other body is given access (if at all) in order that the Ins company can establish their defence of mitigation if any Public Enquiry is given the go ahead. It is really a pathetic sham.

Exactly! Strachan's name seems to be kept out of it a lot, he was the most evil of all.

This link is disturbing.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/may/07/scottish-paedophile-ring-guilty-child-abuse

[Harold 2,454]

20 minutes ago, The Realist said:

Exactly! Strachan's name seems to be kept out of it a lot, he was the most evil of all.

This link is disturbing.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/may/07/scottish-paedophile-ring-guilty-child-abuse

More and more coming out. Surely to fuck with all the publicity and all the social media reporting about this that a PUBLIC ENQUIRY must he held.....but we are under an SNP governing body so I wouldn't hold my breath!

[The Realist 844]

3 minutes ago, Harold said:

More and more coming out. Surely to fuck with all the publicity and all the social media reporting about this that a PUBLIC ENQUIRY must he held.....but we are under an SNP governing body so I wouldn't hold my breath!

It's spreading wider and wider, links have been established between CBC, and Crewe buys club, tournaments etc. That is a good thing, as it now involves England,and can be brought up in Westminster, which tho corrupt, is not full of ceptic minded people. Also the American is getting involved about the abuse that took place over there during cbc's tour.

As for me, I have spent an hour or 2 today e-mailing the PR departments of several of ceptics sponsors, asking them why the feel it ok to support a club with a history of over 30 years of child abuse, and covering it up, including links to many a press article. I urge you to do the same, and spread it as far and wide as possible, the establishment need to be forced to act on this. Kids before votes.

[Harold 2,454]

19 minutes ago, The Realist said:

As for me, I have spent an hour or 2 today e-mailing the PR departments of several of ceptics sponsors, asking them why the feel it ok to support a club with a history of over 30 years of child abuse, and covering it up, including links to many a press article. I urge you to do the same, and spread it as far and wide as possible, the establishment need to be forced to act on this. Kids before votes.

This has been done plus more (phone calls to SNP MSP's including Dornan (SNP councillor @ GCC), Mason & Sturgeon) mate. I have been following this on Follow Follow.com

[Harold 2,454]

Another development....very interesting. And once again it is widely being asked....Why is the Scottish Establishment sitting on their hands with the entire debacle exploding around them. Perhaps John Mason & GCC leader Susan Aitken have Nicola's ear ? They (Scottish Establishment) are doing their damndest to ignore/sweep this scandal. The following link is a very good read if you're interested....makes you wonder...

https://footballtaxhavens.wordpress.com/2019/06/30/market-abuse-due-to-child-abuse-celtic-directors-broke-the-aim-listing-rules-on-disclosure-on-secret-abuse-investigation/?fbclid=IwAR3WWX2GhDp-Q30t0JadRPo51kKI4eu3_oHR0QJu7zL0g7cgTvhOyYbHdYQ

[Mr Magnificent 985]

There definitely seems to be a cover up is going on.

[Harold 2,454]

3 minutes ago, Mr Magnificent said:

There definitely seems to be a cover up is going on.

Oh there is and has been for many years mate.

[Mr Magnificent 985]

1 minute ago, Harold said:

Oh there is and has been for many years mate.

I just can't get my head around why this is allowed to be the case with so much evidence against the filthy bastard's?

[Harold 2,454]

1 minute ago, Mr Magnificent said:

I just can't get my head around why this is allowed to be the case with so much evidence against the filthy bastard's?

well it is quite detailed but to cut a long story very short....it was covered up for ages and even when the first prosecutions came Celtic denied responsibility (and still are) and this was accepted by every Scottish authority (footballing and establishment) and still is but there has been pressure on them (Celtic) and every person with any moral fibre hopes that some kind of public enquiry happens but knowing our Executive....sweep sweep. Still, there could be civil actions raised by victims. Just got to wait & see.

[Harold 2,454]

Another nail in the coffin.....it's getting tighter and we were fucking hounded and ridiculed for financial irregularities? But ye the Football authorities and the Scottish Establishment sit on their hands hoping it will go away....NO FUCKING CHANCE!

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/4494120/celtic-boys-club-child-protction-policy-claims/

[Mr Magnificent 985]

When will charges be bought against this mucky mob?

[Harold 2,454]

12 minutes ago, Mr Magnificent said:

When will charges be bought against this mucky mob?

There will be no 'criminal' charges brought against the club mate....just waiting on civil cases being initiated....may take time but it will happen unless there is a complete turn around and out of court settlements are offered, but that would be admitting responsibility.

[Harold 2,454]

8 hours ago, Hairy Scot said:

Given the puritan attitude shown in the past toward players and managers by the SFA and the SPFL you have to question why neither body has taken action on this matter.

Exactly. It is rather strange that absolutely no comment has been made despite ALL the recent publicity. But this just isn't a footballing matter Hairy and the same accusation of silence can be held against our Establishment albeit two MSPs have been trying to get answers from Lawwell.....Adam Tomkins & James Dornan although Dornan knew about goings on years ago when his son played with Celtic Boys Club but said nothing as he was of the opinion it wasn't to the extent that has now been shown (this was in tweets he made not so long ago).

[Harold 2,454]

9 minutes ago, Hairy Scot said:

You may remember that on SFF any mention of the paedophilia was taken badly by the likes of Hoopz, GoM, Johnarob, etc etc.

I believe the reason for that was that it was seen as point scoring back then as there was nothing like the evidence that has come to the fore and public knowledge more recently which, imo, gives discussion more pertinence  and is worthy of debate. I for one have certainly learned more this year than I knew in the past.

[Makdee 268]

47 minutes ago, Harold said:

I believe the reason for that was that it was seen as point scoring back then as there was nothing like the evidence that has come to the fore and public knowledge more recently which, imo, gives discussion more pertinence  and is worthy of debate. I for one have certainly learned more this year than I knew in the past.

Many tic fans still regard it as point scoring you should see the abuse The mother of Andrew Gray who was abused by Torbett 

[Harold 2,454]

Scottish Conservatives, backed by Scottish Labour and Lib Dems, now calling for an independent enquiry into this monstrosity.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/4498942/celtic-boys-club-abuse-ruth-davidson-public-inquiry/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1563445568

What's that I hear from The Scottish Nationalist Party and the Green Party ?.......

17 minutes ago, Makdee said:

Many tic fans still regard it as point scoring you should see the abuse The mother of Andrew Gray who was abused by Torbett 

Aye, I've seen a small bit of that.

Of course they will say it's point scoring because they are in denial outwardly but deep within it is fucking eating at them like a cancer and they cannot face that...they cannot face the truth.

[Mr Magnificent 985]

They can run but they cannot hide.....

[Makdee 268]

3 hours ago, Harold said:

Scottish Conservatives, backed by Scottish Labour and Lib Dems, now calling for an independent enquiry into this monstrosity.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/4498942/celtic-boys-club-abuse-ruth-davidson-public-inquiry/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1563445568

What's that I hear from The Scottish Nationalist Party and the Green Party ?.......

Aye, I've seen a small bit of that.

Of course they will say it's point scoring because they are in denial outwardly but deep within it is fucking eating at them like a cancer and they cannot face that...they cannot face the truth.

They never have been able to face it. The argument comes out but you had them to and my normal reply is allegedly no one has been convicted and the Watson seems not to be the same guy they think. Also it’s more than likely most clubs did years ago difference they covered it up and continue to do so. That and six convictions  and more to come is frightening 

[Makdee 268]

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/celtic-boys-club-player-abused-during-us-tour-ddhn0hv52

Andtbe noise tightens another notch

[Harold 2,454]

19 hours ago, Makdee said:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/celtic-boys-club-player-abused-during-us-tour-ddhn0hv52

Andtbe noise tightens another notch

Unfortunately I can't read the majority of that Mak as you have to subscribe to view. I posted something about America a wee while back but I'm not sure if it mentioned anything about McGinn knowing....I presume that's what your article is leading with. However, still no desire from our Scottish Executive to hold a public enquiry...like Celtic they'd rather ignore and hope it all blows over.....

[Mr Magnificent 985]

2 hours ago, Harold said:

Unfortunately I can't read the majority of that Mak as you have to subscribe to view. I posted something about America a wee while back but I'm not sure if it mentioned anything about McGinn knowing....I presume that's what your article is leading with. However, still no desire from our Scottish Executive to hold a public enquiry...like Celtic they'd rather ignore and hope it all blows over.....

I was able to read it.

Clearly there has to be a criminal investigation into goings on at Ceptic boys club.

All they want to do is suppress it. Of course they do! 

[Harold 2,454]

Very interesting article from Australia of all places.

https://truecrimenewsweekly.com/child-sex-abuse-cover-up-rocks-cult-of-scottish-football-fans-harass-families-of-abuse-victims-in-extension-of-never-ending-old-firm-derby-between-celtic-rangers/?fbclid=IwAR04u-dvuLmSnMjlt68F8JHhc4kamxtgaGXSY6qn528y0cSjQhCzAxxyPWY

[Harold 2,454]

Don't be waiting with a noose around your neck....

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/4576306/celtic-boys-club-abuse-surviviors-fans-apology/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1565181508

[No.8 83]

Get the chequebook out Peter. 

I haven’t read full article as I’ve just seen it but I’m sure it says Celtic accept liability..

ELTIC have paid ‘significant’ compensation to a former player who suffered sexual abuse by a coach at the club.
The current Scottish Premiership champions admitted liability for the historic abuse carried out by paedophile Jim McCafferty.
McCafferty, who worked for Celtic, Hibernian and Falkirk, was jailed for six years and nine months in May after admitting a series of historic crimes against teenage boys when he appeared at the High Court in edinburgh.
The 73-year-old had admitted ten charges of indecent assault and one charge of lewd and libidinous behaviour against boys aged between 13 and 19 – with some crimes dating back to 1972.
Police Scotland called the scale
of the abuse ‘unprecedented’. The former professional youth player raised a claim through the Personal Injury Court in Edinburgh, after his mental health was affected by abuse suffered during the 1990s.
The Scottish Daily Mail knows the identity of the player, who is now in his 30s, but he cannot be named for legal reasons.
While the exact sum to be paid has not been revealed, legal sources said based on previous payouts south of the Border it could be upwards of £100,000. Last night, the victim’s solicitor, Kim Leslie, confirmed Celtic had admitted liability for the abuse – all of which took place when McCafferty and the former player were full-time employees of the club. She said: ‘For decades, my client suffered as a result of McCafferty’s abuse, so above all else I’d like to pay tribute to him for the courage he has shown in stepping forwards.
‘Ever since McCafferty’s abuse was exposed, Celtic FC remained firm in its defence and denial of responsibility. However, after thorough investigations, I was able to present a robust case, which resulted in the club admitting liability. I hope the successful end to this legal action brings closure to my client and also brings hope to those who are considering a civil action of their own.’
Celtic bosses have expressed ‘regret and sorrow’ for other abuse claimants who played for Celtic Boys Club in the 1960s and 1970s, but have repeatedly distanced themselves from potential litigation by claiming their former feeder operation was an ‘entirely separate organisation’.
Boys Club founder Jim Torbett, coach Frank Cairney and former Boys Club chairman Gerald King have also been convicted for sex crimes against former players.
During the 1990s, however, McCafferty was a full-time employee of Celtic, working alongside first team and youth players when he abused his position of trust.
But as pressure grows on the club to accept legal liability for abuse that
‘The club admitted liability’
took place within the Boys Club, legal experts warn that ultimately the club could face multi-million pound compensation payouts.
Earlier this year, lawyer Patrick McGuire, who represented some victims, said: ‘We have intimated a large number of claims on behalf of survivors of all the four named paedophiles that operated under the guise of the wider Celtic umbrella.
‘We absolutely will be going to court, unless Celtic’s tack changes.’
The Parkhead club recently announced that its insurers had appointed a ‘wholly independent and experienced lawyer’ to investigate the sexual assault scandal.
Celtic declined to comment. In a recent statement, chief executive Peter Lawwell said: ‘We respect any claimants’ rights and our advisers will communicate with them and their representatives directly in the proper manner.’
Legal experts have predicted the final cost of compensation for abuse victims across British football could reach more than £100million. Chelsea Football Club faces paying millions of pounds for years of sexual abuse endured by youth players. Dozens of boys – some as young as ten – were groped, assaulted or raped in the 1970s by chief scout Eddie Heath, according to one of two damning reports commissioned by the club.
A second report states black players were blasted with ‘daily tirades’ of racism in the 1980s and 1990s. The club has apologised and offered compensation to the sex abuse victims.
One report found chances to stop Heath were missed because Dario Gradi – then an assistant coach at the club – failed to raise the alarm.
Gradi, 78, left Chelsea in the mid1970s. He denied trying to ‘smooth over’ the allegations, saying he raised them with senior staff.
He has also denied knowing about the activities of paedophile coach Barry Bennell, an ex-Chelsea youth player who also worked at Manchester City and Crewe.
Bennell has been jailed for 31 years for abusing young players. Manchester City is also set to offer millions of pounds in compensation to victims of historic child sexual abuse.
A senior judge this week set a date for Cairney, 84, to appeal against his conviction for sexual abuse. He was jailed for four years after being convicted of sexually abusing young footballers during the 1980s.

[Harold 2,454]

10 minutes ago, No.8 said:

Get the chequebook out Peter. 

I haven’t read full article as I’ve just seen it but I’m sure it says Celtic accept liability..

ELTIC have paid ‘significant’ compensation to a former player who suffered sexual abuse by a coach at the club.
The current Scottish Premiership champions admitted liability for the historic abuse carried out by paedophile Jim McCafferty.
McCafferty, who worked for Celtic, Hibernian and Falkirk, was jailed for six years and nine months in May after admitting a series of historic crimes against teenage boys when he appeared at the High Court in edinburgh.
The 73-year-old had admitted ten charges of indecent assault and one charge of lewd and libidinous behaviour against boys aged between 13 and 19 – with some crimes dating back to 1972.
Police Scotland called the scale
of the abuse ‘unprecedented’. The former professional youth player raised a claim through the Personal Injury Court in Edinburgh, after his mental health was affected by abuse suffered during the 1990s.
The Scottish Daily Mail knows the identity of the player, who is now in his 30s, but he cannot be named for legal reasons.
While the exact sum to be paid has not been revealed, legal sources said based on previous payouts south of the Border it could be upwards of £100,000. Last night, the victim’s solicitor, Kim Leslie, confirmed Celtic had admitted liability for the abuse – all of which took place when McCafferty and the former player were full-time employees of the club. She said: ‘For decades, my client suffered as a result of McCafferty’s abuse, so above all else I’d like to pay tribute to him for the courage he has shown in stepping forwards.
‘Ever since McCafferty’s abuse was exposed, Celtic FC remained firm in its defence and denial of responsibility. However, after thorough investigations, I was able to present a robust case, which resulted in the club admitting liability. I hope the successful end to this legal action brings closure to my client and also brings hope to those who are considering a civil action of their own.’
Celtic bosses have expressed ‘regret and sorrow’ for other abuse claimants who played for Celtic Boys Club in the 1960s and 1970s, but have repeatedly distanced themselves from potential litigation by claiming their former feeder operation was an ‘entirely separate organisation’.
Boys Club founder Jim Torbett, coach Frank Cairney and former Boys Club chairman Gerald King have also been convicted for sex crimes against former players.
During the 1990s, however, McCafferty was a full-time employee of Celtic, working alongside first team and youth players when he abused his position of trust.
But as pressure grows on the club to accept legal liability for abuse that
‘The club admitted liability’
took place within the Boys Club, legal experts warn that ultimately the club could face multi-million pound compensation payouts.
Earlier this year, lawyer Patrick McGuire, who represented some victims, said: ‘We have intimated a large number of claims on behalf of survivors of all the four named paedophiles that operated under the guise of the wider Celtic umbrella.
‘We absolutely will be going to court, unless Celtic’s tack changes.’
The Parkhead club recently announced that its insurers had appointed a ‘wholly independent and experienced lawyer’ to investigate the sexual assault scandal.
Celtic declined to comment. In a recent statement, chief executive Peter Lawwell said: ‘We respect any claimants’ rights and our advisers will communicate with them and their representatives directly in the proper manner.’
Legal experts have predicted the final cost of compensation for abuse victims across British football could reach more than £100million. Chelsea Football Club faces paying millions of pounds for years of sexual abuse endured by youth players. Dozens of boys – some as young as ten – were groped, assaulted or raped in the 1970s by chief scout Eddie Heath, according to one of two damning reports commissioned by the club.
A second report states black players were blasted with ‘daily tirades’ of racism in the 1980s and 1990s. The club has apologised and offered compensation to the sex abuse victims.
One report found chances to stop Heath were missed because Dario Gradi – then an assistant coach at the club – failed to raise the alarm.
Gradi, 78, left Chelsea in the mid1970s. He denied trying to ‘smooth over’ the allegations, saying he raised them with senior staff.
He has also denied knowing about the activities of paedophile coach Barry Bennell, an ex-Chelsea youth player who also worked at Manchester City and Crewe.
Bennell has been jailed for 31 years for abusing young players. Manchester City is also set to offer millions of pounds in compensation to victims of historic child sexual abuse.
A senior judge this week set a date for Cairney, 84, to appeal against his conviction for sexual abuse. He was jailed for four years after being convicted of sexually abusing young footballers during the 1980s.

there's a front page article in the Daily Mail today mate (may what you've posted)....still to read it.